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> open floor plans This is the part where I personally experienced the most friction between the management/lifestyle/trend bubble and "boots on the ground" pe

> open floor plans This is the part where I personally experienced the most friction between the management/lifestyle/trend bubble and "boots on the ground" people/devs. All of a sudden blog posts and news posts popped up that claimed how open space is better, everybody loves it and everyone should be able to look every coworker in the eye and on his monitor, 0 barriers etc. Meanwhile I have yet to meet a coworker in real life that prefers or even likes this trend, personally I hate it. Makes it hard to focus, turns the distractions and noises up to 11 and makes overall for a terrible workplace. It was a major reason to quit my last job, and I am much happier with my current one. Similarly I believe that homeoffice has probably sensitized many people to terrible workplace environments.

nostrebored 5y ago
My best workplaces have always been open offices with high quality coworkers!
- falcolas 5y ago
  And mine have been closed offices with high quality co-workers. Followed by closed office with OK co-workers. I don't think it's the floor plan.
tick_tock_tick 5y ago
> Meanwhile I have yet to meet a coworker in real life that prefers or even likes this trend, personally I hate it. I just don't believe this. I would say a good 2/3rd of employee's at every job I've worked at preferred the open floor plan. The only way I could possibly see not a single, not even one, person you've worked with preferring it is if you front run the conversation with such a vicious condemnation of it that they didn't feel comfortable sharing with you. > Similarly I believe that homeoffice has probably sensitized many people to terrible workplace environments. I'll take a guess that you have extra space and no kids or some combination? The feedback I've seen is the exact opposite with people realizing how poorly their home setup is and how little ability they have to make better.
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 5y ago
  > I'll take a guess that you have extra space and no kids or some combination? Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying "people realize that homeoffice is better", I'm just saying people are sensitized to poor environments. And homeoffice can come with the problem you describe and still be better than the workplace. I did not express my personal opinion on homeoffice vs. workplace. But your guess is still wrong.
machiaweliczny 5y ago
I hate open office. It's required to wear headphones to focus or you get migraine. And whole day with headphones is not comfy and probably not healthy. The coolest work I've had outside my personal office was in rented house and room per team. Although having office in city centre has it's perks that you could have lunch, beer, meet somewhere after work with collegues and I enjoyed that - but I feel it only worked as I had mostly same age, childless peers there. Still commuting kills most of joy. I would move to village outide of city if only I could cook. Maybe some tourist place in the mountains will work.

nostrebored 5y ago

My best workplaces have always been open offices with high quality coworkers!

falcolas 5y ago
And mine have been closed offices with high quality co-workers. Followed by closed office with OK co-workers. I don't think it's the floor plan.

tick_tock_tick 5y ago

> Meanwhile I have yet to meet a coworker in real life that prefers or even likes this trend, personally I hate it. I just don't believe this. I would say a good 2/3rd of employee's at every job I've worked at preferred the open floor plan. The only way I could possibly see not a single, not even one, person you've worked with preferring it is if you front run the conversation with such a vicious condemnation of it that they didn't feel comfortable sharing with you. > Similarly I believe that homeoffice has probably sensitized many people to terrible workplace environments. I'll take a guess that you have extra space and no kids or some combination? The feedback I've seen is the exact opposite with people realizing how poorly their home setup is and how little ability they have to make better.

2pEXgD0fZ5cF 5y ago
> I'll take a guess that you have extra space and no kids or some combination? Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying "people realize that homeoffice is better", I'm just saying people are sensitized to poor environments. And homeoffice can come with the problem you describe and still be better than the workplace. I did not express my personal opinion on homeoffice vs. workplace. But your guess is still wrong.

machiaweliczny 5y ago

I hate open office. It's required to wear headphones to focus or you get migraine. And whole day with headphones is not comfy and probably not healthy. The coolest work I've had outside my personal office was in rented house and room per team. Although having office in city centre has it's perks that you could have lunch, beer, meet somewhere after work with collegues and I enjoyed that - but I feel it only worked as I had mostly same age, childless peers there. Still commuting kills most of joy. I would move to village outide of city if only I could cook. Maybe some tourist place in the mountains will work.