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Some people in Jan 6 assaulted capital guard and chased people into private areas of Congress. But I don’t think they had any chance of overturning the election

by ryan93 5y ago

Some people in Jan 6 assaulted capital guard and chased people into private areas of Congress. But I don’t think they had any chance of overturning the election.

kadoban 5y ago
All they needed to do, and what the plan was, was to disrupt the proceedings and get more time.
- ryan93 5y ago
  More time for what? They left quickly and peacefully when asked. Wasn’t much of a plan. definitely not evidence of a strong desire to do what it takes.
  - kadoban 5y ago
    Their goal was to prevent the certification of the vote, and to pressure Pence to assist with that. They wanted to throw it back to the states, have them do more "review" or give different electors. If nobody can convincingly be said to have the required number of electoral votes, the US House decides, with each state getting one vote. > They left quickly and peacefully when asked Oh? Then what is anyone being charged with and convicted for exactly? They finally left vaguely once Trump asked, because he was forced into it, it hadn't worked, and public pressure had risen.
    - all2 5y ago
      > Oh? Then what is anyone being charged with and convicted for exactly? Importantly, there are very few being charged with anything. Not everyone, but a very few people. Also note the presence of undercover FBI on premises as members of alt-right groups [0]. [0] https://republicandaily.com/2021/07/confirmed-undercover-agents-were-working-capitol-rioters-on-january-6-court-documents-reveal/ https://republicandaily.com/2021/07/confirmed-undercover-age... <-- The editorial is left to the end of the summary of news events. I really, really wish we could go back to a world of just reporting and not editorializing.
      - kadoban 5y ago
        Last I checked there are ~700 people being charged (or already convicted). How is that "very few", what are we comparing against? I don't get what the rest of your comment is about, you'll have to spell it out for me. The feds _should_ be targetting these far-right extremists. They've shown themselves to be violent threats to society and democracy.

by ryan93 5y ago

Some people in Jan 6 assaulted capital guard and chased people into private areas of Congress. But I don’t think they had any chance of overturning the election.

kadoban 5y ago

All they needed to do, and what the plan was, was to disrupt the proceedings and get more time.

ryan93 5y ago
More time for what? They left quickly and peacefully when asked. Wasn’t much of a plan. definitely not evidence of a strong desire to do what it takes.
- kadoban 5y ago
  Their goal was to prevent the certification of the vote, and to pressure Pence to assist with that. They wanted to throw it back to the states, have them do more "review" or give different electors. If nobody can convincingly be said to have the required number of electoral votes, the US House decides, with each state getting one vote. > They left quickly and peacefully when asked Oh? Then what is anyone being charged with and convicted for exactly? They finally left vaguely once Trump asked, because he was forced into it, it hadn't worked, and public pressure had risen.
  - all2 5y ago
    > Oh? Then what is anyone being charged with and convicted for exactly? Importantly, there are very few being charged with anything. Not everyone, but a very few people. Also note the presence of undercover FBI on premises as members of alt-right groups [0]. [0] https://republicandaily.com/2021/07/confirmed-undercover-agents-were-working-capitol-rioters-on-january-6-court-documents-reveal/ https://republicandaily.com/2021/07/confirmed-undercover-age... <-- The editorial is left to the end of the summary of news events. I really, really wish we could go back to a world of just reporting and not editorializing.
    - kadoban 5y ago
      Last I checked there are ~700 people being charged (or already convicted). How is that "very few", what are we comparing against? I don't get what the rest of your comment is about, you'll have to spell it out for me. The feds _should_ be targetting these far-right extremists. They've shown themselves to be violent threats to society and democracy.