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I like these types of stories that show the harsh economic realities of many in America. It was not the case many years ago, when they could become an American

I like these types of stories that show the harsh economic realities of many in America. It was not the case many years ago, when they could become an American citizen by working hard enough. Now they are servants, beholden to the corrupted members of our government.

callmeal 5y ago
>Now they are servants, beholden to the corrupted members of our government. ITYM corporations. The government is desperately trying to help and corporate interests (in the form of Joe Manchin's blocking of the BBB act) are how we got to this point. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/joe-manchin-no-build-back-better/621062/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/joe-man... Most people have forgotten that we "solved" the ozone hole problem through regulation. We could have done the same for green house emmissions. But businesses did not want cut into their profits and now here we are.
- mise_en_place 5y ago
  Nope, the worst thing a corporation can do is try to sell me something I don’t want. The worst the federal govt can do to me is imprison me, or worse, kill me. It’s time we hold these fascists accountable.
  - pbourke 5y ago
    > Nope, the worst thing a corporation can do is try to sell me something I don’t want. I think poisoning your water supply with benzene might be a bit worse.
    - mise_en_place 5y ago
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  - GabeIsko 5y ago
    You know the Federal government contracts out running prisons and the acquisition of execution materials to private entities right?
  - callmeal 5y ago
    >Nope, the worst thing a corporation can do is try to sell me something I don’t want. How quickly we forget. https://www.marketplace.org/2019/10/16/the-20-year-legal-battle-with-dupont-that-started-with-one-west-virginia-farmer/ https://www.marketplace.org/2019/10/16/the-20-year-legal-bat... https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/radium-girls-radioactive-paint/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/radium-girls-radioacti... There's more. A lot, lot more.
    - Mezzie 5y ago
      The Battle of Blair Mountain. Shirtwaist Fire. Company towns. Sharecropping. Child Labor. Indentured servitude. Authoritarianism is the same whether it's public or private. It's about power and leverage.
kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
How do "corrupt members of the government" force these people to collect cans? What other job do you suggest they could be doing?
jimbokun 5y ago
> It was not the case many years ago, when they could become an American citizen by working hard enough. I suspect you have an overly rose-tinted view of the past.
999900000999 5y ago
>It was not the case many years ago, when they could become an American citizen by working hard enough. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozawa_v._United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozawa_v._United_States When was this magical time ?

callmeal 5y ago

>Now they are servants, beholden to the corrupted members of our government. ITYM corporations. The government is desperately trying to help and corporate interests (in the form of Joe Manchin's blocking of the BBB act) are how we got to this point. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/joe-manchin-no-build-back-better/621062/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/joe-man... Most people have forgotten that we "solved" the ozone hole problem through regulation. We could have done the same for green house emmissions. But businesses did not want cut into their profits and now here we are.

mise_en_place 5y ago
Nope, the worst thing a corporation can do is try to sell me something I don’t want. The worst the federal govt can do to me is imprison me, or worse, kill me. It’s time we hold these fascists accountable.
- pbourke 5y ago
  > Nope, the worst thing a corporation can do is try to sell me something I don’t want. I think poisoning your water supply with benzene might be a bit worse.
  - mise_en_place 5y ago
    [flagged]
- GabeIsko 5y ago
  You know the Federal government contracts out running prisons and the acquisition of execution materials to private entities right?
- callmeal 5y ago
  >Nope, the worst thing a corporation can do is try to sell me something I don’t want. How quickly we forget. https://www.marketplace.org/2019/10/16/the-20-year-legal-battle-with-dupont-that-started-with-one-west-virginia-farmer/ https://www.marketplace.org/2019/10/16/the-20-year-legal-bat... https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/radium-girls-radioactive-paint/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/radium-girls-radioacti... There's more. A lot, lot more.
  - Mezzie 5y ago
    The Battle of Blair Mountain. Shirtwaist Fire. Company towns. Sharecropping. Child Labor. Indentured servitude. Authoritarianism is the same whether it's public or private. It's about power and leverage.

kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago

How do "corrupt members of the government" force these people to collect cans? What other job do you suggest they could be doing?

jimbokun 5y ago

> It was not the case many years ago, when they could become an American citizen by working hard enough. I suspect you have an overly rose-tinted view of the past.

999900000999 5y ago

>It was not the case many years ago, when they could become an American citizen by working hard enough. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozawa_v._United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozawa_v._United_States When was this magical time ?