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"It's worse somewhere else" isn't relevant to whether it's acceptable in the US. The US has the resources to reward hard workers with financial stability. It a
by smt88 5y ago
"It's worse somewhere else" isn't relevant to whether it's acceptable in the US.
The US has the resources to reward hard workers with financial stability. It also benefits from brain-draining other countries with this promise.
If the US continues to slide away from the "American Dream," the brains and prosperity will end up somewhere else.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoSo how much do you want to pay for bottle collecting? When you say "the US has the resources to reward hard workers", in this case you mean everybody who buys a bottle should pay more. Or how would you envision it to play out?
- zeckalpha 5y agoMany places use a deposit system, where if you return the packaging for recycling, you get your money back. This cuts down on litter, at no cost to those who recycle.
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- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoBut presumably, the higher the price for returning bottles, the less likely people will be to just dump them on the street, for the collectors to collect? Or it will become attractive for more collectors. In any case, it may not be so simple to raise their "wage" for collecting bottles.
- zeckalpha 5y agoMany people will dump on the street (or in cans the collectors tend to) even if the deposit tripled.
- smt88 5y agoWe could easily turn bottle-collecting into a job with guaranteed hours and pay. Bottle-collecting is a poor example for the broader issue I was discussing. Those programs are intended for the (mostly homeless) poor to pick up trash they see instead of leaving it behind. It does what it's supposed to do.
- jimbokun 5y ago> The US has the resources to reward hard workers with financial stability. Most hard workers in the U.S. are rewarded with financial stability. Not everyone, but enough that people still flock here from other countries where that's less true. > It also benefits from brain-draining other countries with this promise. Well gee, I guess the U.S. should stop being such a great place for immigrants, so talented people stop coming here and stay wherever they live now.
- smt88 5y ago> Most hard workers in the U.S. are rewarded with financial stability. Not everyone, but enough that people still flock here from other countries where that's less true. You think restaurant workers are lazy? Factory workers? Amazon fulfillment workers? Why do people need two or three exhausting jobs to make a living? > Well gee, I guess the U.S. should stop being such a great place for immigrants, so talented people stop coming here and stay wherever they live now. I don't know what this means. Have the courage to say what you mean instead of using sarcasm. Whatever you mean, the US needs young workers to resolve our massive labor shortage and we need educated workers to be our next generation of scientists, doctors, engineers, and entrepreneurs.
- jimbokun 5y ago> Why do people need two or three exhausting jobs to make a living? Most. Not all. The U.S. can still do better, but there needs to be some perspective on how the U.S. stacks up against the rest of the world. Better than most countries, not as good as some. > Whatever you mean, the US needs young workers to resolve our massive labor shortage and we need educated workers to be our next generation of scientists, doctors, engineers, and entrepreneurs. Brain drain sounded to me like the U.S. attracting those people is a bad thing, because those people should stay in their own countries. That's not what you meant to imply? We do need educated workers to fill the jobs you describe, but at the same time we probably send too many young people to college, many of whom would do better with solid technical skills training leading directly to jobs with far less debt.
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