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How the toddlers of today growing up with fully masked teachers during their institutionalized education will manage to develop normal social skills without bei

How the toddlers of today growing up with fully masked teachers during their institutionalized education will manage to develop normal social skills without being able to see people’s faces is beyond me.

notpachet 5y ago
Hopefully by the time it becomes a problem, we can all just hide behind our avatars inside the Metaverse. /s
- zbendefy 5y ago
  Where is this sudden surge of talking about the metaverse coming from?
- luckman212 5y ago
  Yeah that's cool, taking one step further: the Metaverse might finally give us ugly people a chance for a fair and happy life.
dessant 5y ago
They will manage just fine, because they are exposed to enough maskless people at home and in other social settings. And even in schools, kids often don't follow mask mandates, especially when the teacher steps out, or sets an example by wearing a chin diaper during class.
- mandmandam 5y ago
  > They will manage just fine because they are exposed to enough maskless people at home and in other social settings The wealthy kids have that opportunity. Kids with natural social skills may be fine too. However, kids with two parents that are working 4 jobs won't reach their full potential. Many kids already have issues from this; and it's awful that their voices and their parents voices - and their psychologists voices - aren't being heard. Myself, I find it abhorrent that people are casually brushing aside a clear major developmental impact on an entire generation of growing children. The cost benefit ratio seems awfully bad.
  - dessant 5y ago
    Yes, times are tough for everyone, including children. I find it even more abhorrent to single out masks because "you can't see people's faces", while ignoring what their purpose is and what can they prevent. We've seen enough idiots decimate their family and friends while repeating this exact same argument.
    - philovivero 5y ago
      This sort of over-the-top rhetoric gives anti-maskers their ammo. I am unaware of a single family, anywhere on the planet, that was "decimated" by Covid. I hope you really mean "devastated," because then at least you'd be making some semblance of sense. Also, to ignore that there are studies and experts that back their opinion is a little rich. Sure, you can say you think your studies and your experts are better, but to assume those who disagree with you are "idiots" is, again, pretty over-the-top, and exactly the sort of thing someone can point to and say: "Look, these pro-maskers are projecting." Why not try to be a little more understanding and share some of this knowledge with people? Do you really need to stoop so low?
      - dessant 5y ago
        > I am unaware of a single family, anywhere on the planet, that was "decimated" by Covid. Then perhaps this is a good time to start paying attention to your surroundings.
      - rightbyte 5y ago
        "Decimate" is kill one in ten, which is probably a not uncommon number for those who had atleast one fatality in the family.
        nitrogen 5y ago
        Nobody uses that word that way in common conversation.
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option 5y ago
Our (Bay Area, CA) school district psychologist told us - “Most of our 4 and 5 years old are behind 1 to 2 year on their language and social development”. How this is not national news 24/7? It is a disaster. So much about protecting the children…
- Zababa 5y ago
  > So much about protecting the children… At least for covid, this has never been about protecting the children, mostly about protecting old people. I remember a classmate calling it "sacrificing the mental health of the youth for the physical health of the old".
  - mandmandam 5y ago
    I imagine children's physical health is actually being severely affected as well, especially for children in lower income families. I would expect less physical movement overall (bad), more respiratory issues from over-wearing masks, anxiety manifesting as physical issues, and a host of other second order effects. And let's not forget that poorer kids worldwide are facing less access to dentists and other preventative medicine overall. That people are letting this stuff slide while 'health' companies post record profits is maddening.
    - option 5y ago
      I often run (maskless of course) on the street where I can see public’s school stadium. Kids there wear masks outside while running around stadium during PE class. What kind of insanity is this??! This is in Santa Clara county, CA.
      - astrange 5y ago
        Masks outside are good actually. It’s cold outside and they’re warm. You can’t wear a scarf while running.
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xrobledo84 5y ago
They’re not wearing masks during lunch
Mezzie 5y ago
I was blind until I was 4 and while I have some neurological visual issues, my social skills are fine even though I couldn't see facial expressions at that age. Not saying it didn't have an impact, but it's probably not that serious.
IshKebab 5y ago
Ha this is like the Daily Mail comments section. Did you think at all before writing this?
watwut 5y ago
Toddlers are not even required to go to institutions. Huge amounts of them are at home. And those in institutions still spend tons amount of time at home.
diveanon 5y ago
What makes you think the future is going to be any different? The world didn’t go back to normal after 9/11, it’s not going to happen now either. If it’s not COVID it’ll just be the next pandemic.
oh_sigh 5y ago
Actually, toddlers will all have great super social skills, because they will not believe that "smiling = you're happy", which is totally wrong. They'll need to figure out emotions using tone of voice and the look of the person's eyes and maybe upper cheeks. So I disagree with your point entirely. And I've provided even more reasoning than you did about why today's children will be even better at social conduct than their predecessors.

notpachet 5y ago

Hopefully by the time it becomes a problem, we can all just hide behind our avatars inside the Metaverse. /s

zbendefy 5y ago
Where is this sudden surge of talking about the metaverse coming from?
luckman212 5y ago
Yeah that's cool, taking one step further: the Metaverse might finally give us ugly people a chance for a fair and happy life.

dessant 5y ago

They will manage just fine, because they are exposed to enough maskless people at home and in other social settings. And even in schools, kids often don't follow mask mandates, especially when the teacher steps out, or sets an example by wearing a chin diaper during class.

mandmandam 5y ago
> They will manage just fine because they are exposed to enough maskless people at home and in other social settings The wealthy kids have that opportunity. Kids with natural social skills may be fine too. However, kids with two parents that are working 4 jobs won't reach their full potential. Many kids already have issues from this; and it's awful that their voices and their parents voices - and their psychologists voices - aren't being heard. Myself, I find it abhorrent that people are casually brushing aside a clear major developmental impact on an entire generation of growing children. The cost benefit ratio seems awfully bad.
- dessant 5y ago
  Yes, times are tough for everyone, including children. I find it even more abhorrent to single out masks because "you can't see people's faces", while ignoring what their purpose is and what can they prevent. We've seen enough idiots decimate their family and friends while repeating this exact same argument.
  - philovivero 5y ago
    This sort of over-the-top rhetoric gives anti-maskers their ammo. I am unaware of a single family, anywhere on the planet, that was "decimated" by Covid. I hope you really mean "devastated," because then at least you'd be making some semblance of sense. Also, to ignore that there are studies and experts that back their opinion is a little rich. Sure, you can say you think your studies and your experts are better, but to assume those who disagree with you are "idiots" is, again, pretty over-the-top, and exactly the sort of thing someone can point to and say: "Look, these pro-maskers are projecting." Why not try to be a little more understanding and share some of this knowledge with people? Do you really need to stoop so low?
    - dessant 5y ago
      > I am unaware of a single family, anywhere on the planet, that was "decimated" by Covid. Then perhaps this is a good time to start paying attention to your surroundings.
    - rightbyte 5y ago
      "Decimate" is kill one in ten, which is probably a not uncommon number for those who had atleast one fatality in the family.
      - nitrogen 5y ago
        Nobody uses that word that way in common conversation.
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option 5y ago

Our (Bay Area, CA) school district psychologist told us - “Most of our 4 and 5 years old are behind 1 to 2 year on their language and social development”. How this is not national news 24/7? It is a disaster. So much about protecting the children…

Zababa 5y ago
> So much about protecting the children… At least for covid, this has never been about protecting the children, mostly about protecting old people. I remember a classmate calling it "sacrificing the mental health of the youth for the physical health of the old".
- mandmandam 5y ago
  I imagine children's physical health is actually being severely affected as well, especially for children in lower income families. I would expect less physical movement overall (bad), more respiratory issues from over-wearing masks, anxiety manifesting as physical issues, and a host of other second order effects. And let's not forget that poorer kids worldwide are facing less access to dentists and other preventative medicine overall. That people are letting this stuff slide while 'health' companies post record profits is maddening.
  - option 5y ago
    I often run (maskless of course) on the street where I can see public’s school stadium. Kids there wear masks outside while running around stadium during PE class. What kind of insanity is this??! This is in Santa Clara county, CA.
    - astrange 5y ago
      Masks outside are good actually. It’s cold outside and they’re warm. You can’t wear a scarf while running.
      - 5y ago

xrobledo84 5y ago

They’re not wearing masks during lunch

Mezzie 5y ago

I was blind until I was 4 and while I have some neurological visual issues, my social skills are fine even though I couldn't see facial expressions at that age. Not saying it didn't have an impact, but it's probably not that serious.

IshKebab 5y ago

Ha this is like the Daily Mail comments section. Did you think at all before writing this?

watwut 5y ago

Toddlers are not even required to go to institutions. Huge amounts of them are at home. And those in institutions still spend tons amount of time at home.

diveanon 5y ago

What makes you think the future is going to be any different? The world didn’t go back to normal after 9/11, it’s not going to happen now either. If it’s not COVID it’ll just be the next pandemic.

oh_sigh 5y ago

Actually, toddlers will all have great super social skills, because they will not believe that "smiling = you're happy", which is totally wrong. They'll need to figure out emotions using tone of voice and the look of the person's eyes and maybe upper cheeks. So I disagree with your point entirely. And I've provided even more reasoning than you did about why today's children will be even better at social conduct than their predecessors.