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Everybody: Avoid Google Chrome for the sake of privacy. Google is doing everything to track even if you opt-out. And they will continue to implement their work

by subbz 5y ago

Everybody: Avoid Google Chrome for the sake of privacy. Google is doing everything to track even if you opt-out. And they will continue to implement their workarounds. Quick solution: Use Firefox. Stop throwing data at Google. Google is evil (Google "don't be evil" for more info on that).

anticristi 5y ago
Permanent solution: Move to the EU and enforce your rights under GDPR. :)
tata71 5y ago
Being objectively less secure is not a solution. Use Chromium. Use Vanadium.
- zufallsheld 5y ago
  Why is using Firefox less secure?
  - tata71 5y ago
    https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.ht...
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      I just glimpsed over it, but that sounds actually not good. I would suppose the advantage of FF is the way smaller marketshare, along with technical competence of at least some of its user making it not such a attractive target, compared to chrome.
    - egberts1 5y ago
      PartitionMalloc? Doesn’t PM becomes unsecured from ASLR option being enabled? Something about CPU NUMA and the generalized malloc’s Arena architecture?
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
systemvoltage 5y ago
Every single hacker here should switch to Firefox. If not for how much better it is (IMO it is), purely for the sake of common good. Firefox team also needs a bit of spanking - WTF are you doing with this product? The PMs and the leadership of Firefox is fucking things up. We just want a goddamn browser. Stop changing the UI. Stop with all this other bullshit. No one is asking for it. I really don't want a future Firefox-AI assistant. The way things are going, the probability of this is pretty high.
nnutter 5y ago
Is Firefox really a solution anymore? Recent news about Firefox implementing [Manifest V3](https://9to5google.com/2021/05/28/firefox-manifest-v3-extensions/ https://9to5google.com/2021/05/28/firefox-manifest-v3-extens...) with "Manifest V3" appearing to be another attempt from Google to kneecap privacy extensions. I've been considering Brave which I had pretty much ignored but I honestly don't know who to trust. I think it's basically common knowledge we can't trust either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge.
- detaro 5y ago
  The answer to your concern is even in the headline of the article you link!
  - nnutter 5y ago
    If only. Even just the headline makes it clear that Firefox has no leverage and are capitulating. Plus, that was just one example.
    - detaro 5y ago
      So Firefox not doing the thing that kneecaps adblockers is evidence of Firefox not being a solution? how does that work?
    - nnutter 5y ago
      After seeing tjpnz's comment and re-reading and reading the linked Mozilla announcement I was misinterpreting the article. I thought the article was just saying that they would continue to support Manifest v2 while adopting Google's Manifest v3 and then was saying Manifest v2 was going to be retired around a year later. However, the Mozilla announcement makes it clearer that they are implementing a fork of Google's Manifest v3.
- tjpnz 5y ago
  Firefox is implementing Manifest V3 but not the part designed to hinder content blockers.
tgv 5y ago
Yesterday I tried to buy an from Google's Play Store for an Android tablet, on which I had installed an account with minimal information. Not wanting to hand out my credit card number to them, I bought one of those cards with prepaid credit. And guess what you need to fill in to redeem the card: your address and phone number. Why would that be needed? The answer: it isn't needed, but they want it, and they've got you by your balls. This is such awful abuse of their position. And yes, I filled in a fake address, and then was not able to redeem the card. They need "more details", and the process can take several weeks. Google is evil in every pore.
tata71 5y ago
> Google is evil (Google "don't be evil" for more info on that). Or better.... Use Ecosia.org, Startpage.com, or Qwant.com to search for "Google is Not What It Seems"

by subbz 5y ago

anticristi 5y ago

Permanent solution: Move to the EU and enforce your rights under GDPR. :)

tata71 5y ago

Being objectively less secure is not a solution. Use Chromium. Use Vanadium.

zufallsheld 5y ago
Why is using Firefox less secure?
- tata71 5y ago
  https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.ht...
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    I just glimpsed over it, but that sounds actually not good. I would suppose the advantage of FF is the way smaller marketshare, along with technical competence of at least some of its user making it not such a attractive target, compared to chrome.
  - egberts1 5y ago
    PartitionMalloc? Doesn’t PM becomes unsecured from ASLR option being enabled? Something about CPU NUMA and the generalized malloc’s Arena architecture?
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]

systemvoltage 5y ago

Every single hacker here should switch to Firefox. If not for how much better it is (IMO it is), purely for the sake of common good. Firefox team also needs a bit of spanking - WTF are you doing with this product? The PMs and the leadership of Firefox is fucking things up. We just want a goddamn browser. Stop changing the UI. Stop with all this other bullshit. No one is asking for it. I really don't want a future Firefox-AI assistant. The way things are going, the probability of this is pretty high.

nnutter 5y ago

Is Firefox really a solution anymore? Recent news about Firefox implementing [Manifest V3](https://9to5google.com/2021/05/28/firefox-manifest-v3-extensions/ https://9to5google.com/2021/05/28/firefox-manifest-v3-extens...) with "Manifest V3" appearing to be another attempt from Google to kneecap privacy extensions. I've been considering Brave which I had pretty much ignored but I honestly don't know who to trust. I think it's basically common knowledge we can't trust either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge.

detaro 5y ago
The answer to your concern is even in the headline of the article you link!
- nnutter 5y ago
  If only. Even just the headline makes it clear that Firefox has no leverage and are capitulating. Plus, that was just one example.
  - detaro 5y ago
    So Firefox not doing the thing that kneecaps adblockers is evidence of Firefox not being a solution? how does that work?
  - nnutter 5y ago
    After seeing tjpnz's comment and re-reading and reading the linked Mozilla announcement I was misinterpreting the article. I thought the article was just saying that they would continue to support Manifest v2 while adopting Google's Manifest v3 and then was saying Manifest v2 was going to be retired around a year later. However, the Mozilla announcement makes it clearer that they are implementing a fork of Google's Manifest v3.
tjpnz 5y ago
Firefox is implementing Manifest V3 but not the part designed to hinder content blockers.

tgv 5y ago

Yesterday I tried to buy an from Google's Play Store for an Android tablet, on which I had installed an account with minimal information. Not wanting to hand out my credit card number to them, I bought one of those cards with prepaid credit. And guess what you need to fill in to redeem the card: your address and phone number. Why would that be needed? The answer: it isn't needed, but they want it, and they've got you by your balls. This is such awful abuse of their position. And yes, I filled in a fake address, and then was not able to redeem the card. They need "more details", and the process can take several weeks. Google is evil in every pore.

tata71 5y ago

> Google is evil (Google "don't be evil" for more info on that). Or better.... Use Ecosia.org, Startpage.com, or Qwant.com to search for "Google is Not What It Seems"