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TLDR: some types of software needs more than programming. omitted TLDR: some of the above can only be done by paying people money to do them. Company needs inc

TLDR: some types of software needs more than programming. omitted TLDR: some of the above can only be done by paying people money to do them. Company needs income for that. omitted exibit: why haven't Gimp thrown Photoshop, Pixelmater and others from the throne. If programmers were the only people needed, then all those commercial image editors would be gone from the market. (but a unix shell only needs programming by a single person, so there are no commercial successful unix shells)

ozten 5y ago
Blender is a counter example. They prioritized UX and are now eating into commercial use cases.
- mejutoco 5y ago
  I love blender. Ironically, I remember when blender was a commercial project and they agreed to open source it if they reached a certain amount of donations. The quality of it might be because some real company was using the project to do daily work (even before the ui overhaul).
- DantesKite 5y ago
  They’re also being subsidized by billion dollar organizations.
indymike 5y ago
> so there are no commercial successful unix shells The most successful commercial unix shells are graphical shells shipped with operating systems. Most users consider the visual function of these shells to be the actual operating system. I.e. "MacOS now has scrollbars in preferences!" MacOS, iOS, Android all are good examples. To build a shell of commercial value you end up having to do a little more that a command line shell does. BTW, the biggest part of Adobe's value prop is AdobeStock templates, fonts, stock art and stock video. This makes it really easy to start a project and get to done quickly. It would be interesting to see some of the third party marketplaces like Envato, Issuu and CreativeMarket plugins for open source products... And non-Adobe products, too (Affinity, love the products! Badly need a way to quickly get a few hundred templates in there... Corel, your ecosystem is a dumpster fire)
crazypython 5y ago
Blender has thrown other software out the window.

ozten 5y ago

Blender is a counter example. They prioritized UX and are now eating into commercial use cases.

mejutoco 5y ago
I love blender. Ironically, I remember when blender was a commercial project and they agreed to open source it if they reached a certain amount of donations. The quality of it might be because some real company was using the project to do daily work (even before the ui overhaul).
DantesKite 5y ago
They’re also being subsidized by billion dollar organizations.

indymike 5y ago

> so there are no commercial successful unix shells The most successful commercial unix shells are graphical shells shipped with operating systems. Most users consider the visual function of these shells to be the actual operating system. I.e. "MacOS now has scrollbars in preferences!" MacOS, iOS, Android all are good examples. To build a shell of commercial value you end up having to do a little more that a command line shell does. BTW, the biggest part of Adobe's value prop is AdobeStock templates, fonts, stock art and stock video. This makes it really easy to start a project and get to done quickly. It would be interesting to see some of the third party marketplaces like Envato, Issuu and CreativeMarket plugins for open source products... And non-Adobe products, too (Affinity, love the products! Badly need a way to quickly get a few hundred templates in there... Corel, your ecosystem is a dumpster fire)

crazypython 5y ago

Blender has thrown other software out the window.