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Most Americans who do not have relatives in China think it is almost literally 1984.

• theduder99 5y ago
  oh you mean like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
  • vmception 5y ago
    Everything I could possible write about that is covered on that page, especially the Misconceptions section. The nearly non-existent line between public and private sector in China really derails all possible discussion and comparison to equivalences outside of China, but regardless I just don't find what goes on in China to be different enough when we tolerate the same things from the private sector that runs our daily life. It isn't different enough for me to draw the line at "but our government isn't doing it".
    • Diggsey 5y ago
      That's a pretty clear line... On the one side, even if the US government is not adequately regulating private companies today, it could begin doing so tomorrow, or if it's a question of legality, any individual or group could bring a case against those companies, and have it decided on by a judge who can actually make an impartial decision. On the other side, you have a single entity which answers only to itself, and makes the law. There is no-one "above" that entity, even in principle. If you don't like the things it's doing... tough.
• seanmcdirmid 5y ago
  Honestly the problem in my experience was the opposite: many American friends who visited me in Beijing expected it to be just as free as the west and were surprised when Google Facebook etc… didn’t work. This was well beyond the years where the GFW blocks were implemented. Come on, they expecting China to be openlike Japan or Thailand?