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SF could just build a lot more housing, and that would essentially solve the problems many lament: https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/ https://techcru

SF could just build a lot more housing, and that would essentially solve the problems many lament: https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/

varelse 5y ago
Pre-pandemic if they had done that I probably would have moved there despite passing on a reasonably priced penthouse condo in the mission that has tripled in value back in the early 00s. Post pandemic and post the past 5 years maybe not so much. You get all the density, they've got some huge budget surplus, but it comes with endless annoying petty crime and poop on the streets about which nothing can be done because of political paralysis. I think I'm too old for that now. But it's silly to assume this is San Francisco's last chapter, no?
- voakbasda 5y ago
  Detroit is still clinging on. San Francisco would be wise to learn from its example. It may not be the last chapter, but it might have been the last good chapter for a while.
vanusa 5y ago
SF cannot "just" build massive amounts of housing, in any reality-based sense.
- EricE 5y ago
  They could if the government and NIMBY neighbors would get out of the way. SF's housing problems are entirely self-created and also very solvable. No one wants to change in order to solve them, so the situation continues to get worse. Decades of single issue voting for idiot politicians leads to idiotic policies that literally are destroying what used to be one of the finest cities in America. People need to stop leaving SF and instead clean it up. But they won't. Like locusts that swoop in, destroy everything in sight and then move on they will leave CA, infest other nearby states and then vote for the same utter bullshit that destroyed the areas they came from. I'm watching southern Nevada slide into shithole status more and more from this right now and it's beyond frustrating.
  - vanusa 5y ago
    They could if the government and NIMBY neighbors would get out of the way. I think you know perfectly well they won't (vote tomorrow to repeal all zoning), so we're already in the territory of wishful thinking. And in any case far outside the realm of "could just do it." SF's housing problems are entirely self-created They are not. There are multiple factors involved. The city has essentially the same housing stock as it did 20 years ago, but it didn't have, at that time, anything like the housing crisis like it has now. I'll leave it to you to guess what some of those intervening factors might be.
nradov 5y ago
Building more housing wouldn't solve the overcrowding problem. While some people love living in dense cities, most consider having some space and quiet important for quality of life.

SF could just build a lot more housing, and that would essentially solve the problems many lament: https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/

varelse 5y ago

Pre-pandemic if they had done that I probably would have moved there despite passing on a reasonably priced penthouse condo in the mission that has tripled in value back in the early 00s. Post pandemic and post the past 5 years maybe not so much. You get all the density, they've got some huge budget surplus, but it comes with endless annoying petty crime and poop on the streets about which nothing can be done because of political paralysis. I think I'm too old for that now. But it's silly to assume this is San Francisco's last chapter, no?

voakbasda 5y ago
Detroit is still clinging on. San Francisco would be wise to learn from its example. It may not be the last chapter, but it might have been the last good chapter for a while.

vanusa 5y ago

SF cannot "just" build massive amounts of housing, in any reality-based sense.

EricE 5y ago
They could if the government and NIMBY neighbors would get out of the way. SF's housing problems are entirely self-created and also very solvable. No one wants to change in order to solve them, so the situation continues to get worse. Decades of single issue voting for idiot politicians leads to idiotic policies that literally are destroying what used to be one of the finest cities in America. People need to stop leaving SF and instead clean it up. But they won't. Like locusts that swoop in, destroy everything in sight and then move on they will leave CA, infest other nearby states and then vote for the same utter bullshit that destroyed the areas they came from. I'm watching southern Nevada slide into shithole status more and more from this right now and it's beyond frustrating.
- vanusa 5y ago
  They could if the government and NIMBY neighbors would get out of the way. I think you know perfectly well they won't (vote tomorrow to repeal all zoning), so we're already in the territory of wishful thinking. And in any case far outside the realm of "could just do it." SF's housing problems are entirely self-created They are not. There are multiple factors involved. The city has essentially the same housing stock as it did 20 years ago, but it didn't have, at that time, anything like the housing crisis like it has now. I'll leave it to you to guess what some of those intervening factors might be.

nradov 5y ago

Building more housing wouldn't solve the overcrowding problem. While some people love living in dense cities, most consider having some space and quiet important for quality of life.