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It came in an email saying they need it to be signed ASAP. I feel like they should at least give me time to ask a lawyer or something.

willcipriano 5y ago
What is the consideration[0]? It's not employment since you are already working there and past consideration is not valid consideration. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration_under_American_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration_under_American_l...
- codingdave 5y ago
  Some jurisdictions are ok with continued employment being consideration. Some are not. Hence the need to ask a lawyer.
  - willcipriano 5y ago
    Do you have a example of one? That would be rather exploitative. Firing someone because they refuse to accept a one sided contract where they gain nothing would work in a at will state, but you'd certainly be able to collect unemployment.
    - codingdave 5y ago
      Based on my understanding from past experience (as well as googling it just now), that is true for the majority of US states. FYI, this is a writeup I found for Wisconsin when I just searched --> https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/wisconsin-supreme-court-rules-continued-employment-lawful https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/wiscon... Contracts have no legal requirement to be fair or balanced. Consideration does need to exist, but does not need to be equitable. So yes, it is exploitative, but that does not make it illegal.
codingdave 5y ago
Are you already hired, as in already started work? If so, you definitely need to talk to a lawyer before signing. Putting pressure on you like that for a contract that is new, after you have started work, may have additional legal aspects - some jurisdictions do not allow that without additional compensation. IANAL, but call one before acting.
dekhn 5y ago
it's a shakedown, they are basically trying to pressure you into signing.
toast0 5y ago
(saw your update below, but for the record), ASAP is relative. Who's to say when it's possible for you to sign and return it? It's not possible for me to sign a contract of substance without consulting my spouse and maybe a lawyer. If they come back with it's not a substantive contract, then ask why it's important to sign it? ALSO: Is there anything going on with your company? At my last job, I was asked about my NDA (which got missed during hiring/orientation) when a round of funding was happening and due diligence was being done that they had employee NDAs for everyone.

willcipriano 5y ago

What is the consideration[0]? It's not employment since you are already working there and past consideration is not valid consideration. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration_under_American_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration_under_American_l...

codingdave 5y ago
Some jurisdictions are ok with continued employment being consideration. Some are not. Hence the need to ask a lawyer.
- willcipriano 5y ago
  Do you have a example of one? That would be rather exploitative. Firing someone because they refuse to accept a one sided contract where they gain nothing would work in a at will state, but you'd certainly be able to collect unemployment.
  - codingdave 5y ago
    Based on my understanding from past experience (as well as googling it just now), that is true for the majority of US states. FYI, this is a writeup I found for Wisconsin when I just searched --> https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/wisconsin-supreme-court-rules-continued-employment-lawful https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/wiscon... Contracts have no legal requirement to be fair or balanced. Consideration does need to exist, but does not need to be equitable. So yes, it is exploitative, but that does not make it illegal.

codingdave 5y ago

Are you already hired, as in already started work? If so, you definitely need to talk to a lawyer before signing. Putting pressure on you like that for a contract that is new, after you have started work, may have additional legal aspects - some jurisdictions do not allow that without additional compensation. IANAL, but call one before acting.

dekhn 5y ago

it's a shakedown, they are basically trying to pressure you into signing.

toast0 5y ago

(saw your update below, but for the record), ASAP is relative. Who's to say when it's possible for you to sign and return it? It's not possible for me to sign a contract of substance without consulting my spouse and maybe a lawyer. If they come back with it's not a substantive contract, then ask why it's important to sign it? ALSO: Is there anything going on with your company? At my last job, I was asked about my NDA (which got missed during hiring/orientation) when a round of funding was happening and due diligence was being done that they had employee NDAs for everyone.