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> nerds will drum up any FUD related to omicron to postpone return to the office. And push for mask mandates that require people with jobs at stores and stuff

> nerds will drum up any FUD related to omicron to postpone return to the office. And push for mask mandates that require people with jobs at stores and stuff to continue wearing their mask 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week until forever. "It's just a piece of cloth" say all the privileged tech workers typing from their cozy home office. If tech workers had to wear masks their entire workday, I bet most of them would be screaming to get rid of them. Instead the force all the (mostly vaccinated) "servant class" that brings them deliveries, makes their food, and checks out their groceries to wear some nasty mask all day and when these tech workers are called back into the office "but still wear masks" they all scream about it and continue to work from home. ... because wearing a mask for an entire workday absolutely sucks. Our response to this virus requires a hell of a lot of privilege when you really start thinking hard about it. Don't even get started on how our response completely decimated the working class and transfered massive amounts of wealth in to the pockets of some of the richest people in the world. But hey! We are saving grandma!

vkou 5y ago
> Don't even get started on how our response completely decimated the working class Odd that you say this, when every blue collar place around me is having trouble hiring staff. Between stimulus checks, rising wages, and becoming way pickier about which jobs they are taking, this is the sort of thing that I would expect the working class to do when they are doing better for themselves. You know what actually decimates the working class? Catching COVID. Taking unpaid time from work, because they fall sick. Crippling medical bills, from trips to the doctor, or heaven forbid, the hospital. Lingering damage from long COVID. Strangely enough, the 'reopen everything' political movement also tends to oppose things like worker protections, mandated sick days, affordable healthcare, taxes on the rich...
- landemva 5y ago
  'You know what actually decimates the working class?' Is that theory or do you work a blue collar job? I was in a work truck as 'critical infrastructure' and lived it. The company owners got richer AT HOME while we kept working. And then some layoffs after the pandemic forgivable loan calendar window expired. I caught the 'rona earlier this year. I have a Dr. letter saying so. Now white collar woke-from-home wants me to keep them 'safe' by wearing a cloth mask and getting jabbed. No. I no longer consent. Go fix your own machines.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    > No. I no longer consent. Go fix your own machines Many of my blue collar friends feel the same way. Getting bossed around by chicken shit triple vaccinated white collar workers too afraid to go into the office. They expect all expendable service class workers to do their bidding while they all “take this serious” huddled up in their fancy homes.
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      Well I'd probably be in the work from home group and I don't want any bidding, I just want people to stop spreading so much virus around. And if we are talking about what I want, I want "expendable service class workers" to be paid twice as much anyway. If that's not enough to make up for a mask requirement, then I'm sure there's some alternative we can figure out.
      - spookthesunset 5y ago
        Tell you what, why don’t we require tech workers to wear a mask all day while they work at home? Better, cut off all these tech workers paychecks until some public health “expert” decrees it to be okay again. Then, force them back on unemployment at some random interval a few months later because “it isn’t safe anymore”. Don’t forget to stall their unemployment checks too… then yank their chain more with vaccine mandates and ceaseless masks. I sincerely doubt most white collar workers are “essential” so they should never have been allowed to work during the pandemic, even if they could do so from home. It wasn’t right to let non essential people work no matter where they worked, period. Everybody non essential should have been on the government dole. If the privileged white collar work-from-home crowd got the same complete shaft the common working class folks did, none of our response to Covid would have happened. Because out here in the real world there are a hell of a lot more problems than exactly one damn respiratory virus.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        So the first part is you being upset at things I definitely don't endorse but have nothing to do with masks. The part about forcing non essential people to be paid to not work is confusing and I don't think I understand your point but sure I'd take that deal??
Dylan16807 5y ago
Why would I want a delivery person to wear a mask all day? And I prefer to check out my own groceries. A mask for cooking is probably a good idea in general.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > Why would I want a delivery person to wear a mask all day? If you support these mask mandates you support fully vaccinated employees wearing masks 8 hours a day 40 hours a week. All nothing more than security theater to make the most fearful feel “safe” and provide an easy way for lazy government to look like they are “taking this serious”
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    Then I must not support 'these' mandates. I support ones that make a meaningful impact on spread though. And where I live there haven't been any mandates for vaccinated people anyway.
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      Who cares about “spread” when we have vaccines that anybody can get? That goal was over the first day all the old at risk folks got their shots.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        > all That's the problem, not everyone can be vaccinated.

vkou 5y ago

> Don't even get started on how our response completely decimated the working class Odd that you say this, when every blue collar place around me is having trouble hiring staff. Between stimulus checks, rising wages, and becoming way pickier about which jobs they are taking, this is the sort of thing that I would expect the working class to do when they are doing better for themselves. You know what actually decimates the working class? Catching COVID. Taking unpaid time from work, because they fall sick. Crippling medical bills, from trips to the doctor, or heaven forbid, the hospital. Lingering damage from long COVID. Strangely enough, the 'reopen everything' political movement also tends to oppose things like worker protections, mandated sick days, affordable healthcare, taxes on the rich...

landemva 5y ago
'You know what actually decimates the working class?' Is that theory or do you work a blue collar job? I was in a work truck as 'critical infrastructure' and lived it. The company owners got richer AT HOME while we kept working. And then some layoffs after the pandemic forgivable loan calendar window expired. I caught the 'rona earlier this year. I have a Dr. letter saying so. Now white collar woke-from-home wants me to keep them 'safe' by wearing a cloth mask and getting jabbed. No. I no longer consent. Go fix your own machines.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > No. I no longer consent. Go fix your own machines Many of my blue collar friends feel the same way. Getting bossed around by chicken shit triple vaccinated white collar workers too afraid to go into the office. They expect all expendable service class workers to do their bidding while they all “take this serious” huddled up in their fancy homes.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    Well I'd probably be in the work from home group and I don't want any bidding, I just want people to stop spreading so much virus around. And if we are talking about what I want, I want "expendable service class workers" to be paid twice as much anyway. If that's not enough to make up for a mask requirement, then I'm sure there's some alternative we can figure out.
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      Tell you what, why don’t we require tech workers to wear a mask all day while they work at home? Better, cut off all these tech workers paychecks until some public health “expert” decrees it to be okay again. Then, force them back on unemployment at some random interval a few months later because “it isn’t safe anymore”. Don’t forget to stall their unemployment checks too… then yank their chain more with vaccine mandates and ceaseless masks. I sincerely doubt most white collar workers are “essential” so they should never have been allowed to work during the pandemic, even if they could do so from home. It wasn’t right to let non essential people work no matter where they worked, period. Everybody non essential should have been on the government dole. If the privileged white collar work-from-home crowd got the same complete shaft the common working class folks did, none of our response to Covid would have happened. Because out here in the real world there are a hell of a lot more problems than exactly one damn respiratory virus.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        So the first part is you being upset at things I definitely don't endorse but have nothing to do with masks. The part about forcing non essential people to be paid to not work is confusing and I don't think I understand your point but sure I'd take that deal??

Dylan16807 5y ago

Why would I want a delivery person to wear a mask all day? And I prefer to check out my own groceries. A mask for cooking is probably a good idea in general.

spookthesunset 5y ago
> Why would I want a delivery person to wear a mask all day? If you support these mask mandates you support fully vaccinated employees wearing masks 8 hours a day 40 hours a week. All nothing more than security theater to make the most fearful feel “safe” and provide an easy way for lazy government to look like they are “taking this serious”
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  Then I must not support 'these' mandates. I support ones that make a meaningful impact on spread though. And where I live there haven't been any mandates for vaccinated people anyway.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    Who cares about “spread” when we have vaccines that anybody can get? That goal was over the first day all the old at risk folks got their shots.
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      > all That's the problem, not everyone can be vaccinated.