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Pop_OS 21.10 has landed

40 points by dmytton 5y ago

chrstphrknwtn 5y ago
Would be nice if the blog post included screenshots big enough to actually see what it looks like.
- Nicksil 5y ago
  >Would be nice if the blog post included screenshots big enough to actually see what it looks like. There's pictures and video: https://pop.system76.com/ https://pop.system76.com/
  - chrstphrknwtn 5y ago
    Well sure, pictures and video on another page. I assume the point of that blog post is to generate interest in the OS, so being able to discern details in the screenshots seems like a reasonable expectation in that context.
xmunoz 5y ago
I have a system76 laptop and love using Pop_OS. Granted, I spend most of my day in the terminal, but the driver support for bluetooth and wifi are really good and work out of the box. Think Ubuntu, but less bloated.
moondev 5y ago
Disappointed the arm release is raspberry pi specific and not a standard uefi aarch64 iso installer. Upstream Ubuntu releases these and they work great for esxi arm edition.
MichaelRazum 5y ago
What is exactly the benefit of Pop_OS compared to Ubuntu? I mean installed drivers are great, but that was basically only one apt install command and a reboot.
- xhevahir 5y ago
  A lot of people like the Pop OS desktop, COSMIC; I myself haven't used it or regular GNOME enough to say which one I prefer. (System76 said they're making a new version in Rust that isn't based on GNOME, but that's probably a long way from completion.)
- jeffwiederkehr 5y ago
  I don’t daily drive pop os but i theirs a couple quality of life improvements like slimmed down default applications, improved App Store, default support for battery profiles. Also I don’t believe they install any Snaps and instead use flatpacks when necessary. People like the theme too.
- galoisscobi 5y ago
  It's been a while since I used Pop_OS but it played better with setting up Nvidia proprietary drivers from the get go and that helped with getting a quick local ML dev environment set up. Their new tiling window manager also looks neat (seems close to i3wm and I'm looking forward to trying it) and even though you can change colorschemes pretty easily, I like their default colorscheme.
- xkcd-sucks 5y ago
  Ubuntu without snapd
  - j4yav 5y ago
    And Nvidia drivers already set up, which you can spend a lot of time fiddling with in other distros.
    - nopenopenopeno 5y ago
      and they are setup in a way which breaks compatibility with nvidia-docker, so beware of that.
      - bobthebuilders 5y ago
mikey_1 5y ago
I've been running this on my ThinkPad P1 for a couple of years now without fail. I like that I have the ability to be able to easily switch between discrete and integrated graphics and download and update ThinkPad firmware. I assume Ubuntu has these features now, but I'm not really sure as I haven't touched it in a long time. Initially I had issues specific to my P1 regarding external monitors and switching between graphics modes, but I likely would've experienced these issues with whatever distro I used, and they've since been addressed. The only thing that irritates me now is that the Pop Shop app occasionally blocks apt because it's running update in the background. And the app can become laggy if you're doing too much with it at once. Overall PopOS just does what is says on the box and with minimal need to configure it. It's currently my preferred distro for modern laptops.
rPlayer6554 5y ago
> We now disable user-added PPAs, as they often cause upgrade issues for users. Doesn't that eliminate a lot of software options? Just curious, I haven't used Linux or Ubuntu in a while so things could have changed or I might be misunderstanding something
- Shared404 5y ago
  It's long been recommended by both Pop and upstream Ubuntu (iirc) to disable PPA's during upgrades, and purge them if possible, before doing a dist-upgrade. Pop now just does the disabling for you, and you would re-enable the correct PPA afterwords.
  - indianboy42 5y ago
    Is there a simple way to just reenable all the ppas at once?
    - Shared404 5y ago
      I'm afraid I don't know off the top of my head. I don't usually use PPA's, most things I want are in the repos, I compile myself, or a direct download. I would there is, but I don't know how.
nopenopenopeno 5y ago
I stopped using Pop_OS because it breaks compatibility with nvidia-docker, which I use for tensorflow, and the devs say this doesn’t matter because they made their own project for running tensorflow in docker. Their project is called “tensorman” and it’s a complete joke.

40 points by dmytton 5y ago

chrstphrknwtn 5y ago

Would be nice if the blog post included screenshots big enough to actually see what it looks like.

Nicksil 5y ago
>Would be nice if the blog post included screenshots big enough to actually see what it looks like. There's pictures and video: https://pop.system76.com/ https://pop.system76.com/
- chrstphrknwtn 5y ago
  Well sure, pictures and video on another page. I assume the point of that blog post is to generate interest in the OS, so being able to discern details in the screenshots seems like a reasonable expectation in that context.

xmunoz 5y ago

I have a system76 laptop and love using Pop_OS. Granted, I spend most of my day in the terminal, but the driver support for bluetooth and wifi are really good and work out of the box. Think Ubuntu, but less bloated.

moondev 5y ago

Disappointed the arm release is raspberry pi specific and not a standard uefi aarch64 iso installer. Upstream Ubuntu releases these and they work great for esxi arm edition.

MichaelRazum 5y ago

What is exactly the benefit of Pop_OS compared to Ubuntu? I mean installed drivers are great, but that was basically only one apt install command and a reboot.

xhevahir 5y ago
A lot of people like the Pop OS desktop, COSMIC; I myself haven't used it or regular GNOME enough to say which one I prefer. (System76 said they're making a new version in Rust that isn't based on GNOME, but that's probably a long way from completion.)
jeffwiederkehr 5y ago
I don’t daily drive pop os but i theirs a couple quality of life improvements like slimmed down default applications, improved App Store, default support for battery profiles. Also I don’t believe they install any Snaps and instead use flatpacks when necessary. People like the theme too.
galoisscobi 5y ago
It's been a while since I used Pop_OS but it played better with setting up Nvidia proprietary drivers from the get go and that helped with getting a quick local ML dev environment set up. Their new tiling window manager also looks neat (seems close to i3wm and I'm looking forward to trying it) and even though you can change colorschemes pretty easily, I like their default colorscheme.
xkcd-sucks 5y ago
Ubuntu without snapd
- j4yav 5y ago
  And Nvidia drivers already set up, which you can spend a lot of time fiddling with in other distros.
  - nopenopenopeno 5y ago
    and they are setup in a way which breaks compatibility with nvidia-docker, so beware of that.
    - bobthebuilders 5y ago

mikey_1 5y ago

I've been running this on my ThinkPad P1 for a couple of years now without fail. I like that I have the ability to be able to easily switch between discrete and integrated graphics and download and update ThinkPad firmware. I assume Ubuntu has these features now, but I'm not really sure as I haven't touched it in a long time. Initially I had issues specific to my P1 regarding external monitors and switching between graphics modes, but I likely would've experienced these issues with whatever distro I used, and they've since been addressed. The only thing that irritates me now is that the Pop Shop app occasionally blocks apt because it's running update in the background. And the app can become laggy if you're doing too much with it at once. Overall PopOS just does what is says on the box and with minimal need to configure it. It's currently my preferred distro for modern laptops.

rPlayer6554 5y ago

> We now disable user-added PPAs, as they often cause upgrade issues for users. Doesn't that eliminate a lot of software options? Just curious, I haven't used Linux or Ubuntu in a while so things could have changed or I might be misunderstanding something

Shared404 5y ago
It's long been recommended by both Pop and upstream Ubuntu (iirc) to disable PPA's during upgrades, and purge them if possible, before doing a dist-upgrade. Pop now just does the disabling for you, and you would re-enable the correct PPA afterwords.
- indianboy42 5y ago
  Is there a simple way to just reenable all the ppas at once?
  - Shared404 5y ago
    I'm afraid I don't know off the top of my head. I don't usually use PPA's, most things I want are in the repos, I compile myself, or a direct download. I would there is, but I don't know how.

nopenopenopeno 5y ago

I stopped using Pop_OS because it breaks compatibility with nvidia-docker, which I use for tensorflow, and the devs say this doesn’t matter because they made their own project for running tensorflow in docker. Their project is called “tensorman” and it’s a complete joke.