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If they were going to give their award to a truly deserving recipient it would have been the tortured and imprisoned journalist Julian Assange who is an advocat

If they were going to give their award to a truly deserving recipient it would have been the tortured and imprisoned journalist Julian Assange who is an advocate of free speech and an independent media and voices. Instead they gave the awards deliberately to censorship advocates. It's the journalistic equivalent of giving war criminals and killers of children Nobel Peace Prizes like Kissinger and Obama. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombing_n_5615690ce4b021e856d33d51 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombi...

mc32 5y ago
That would be impossible. Can you imagine: United States imprisons Nobel prize laureate.
- 1cvmask 5y ago
  I can imagine them imprisoning Nobel Prize laureates as they have bombed Nobel Prize recipients as well. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombing_n_5615690ce4b021e856d33d51 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombi...
  - q1w2 5y ago
    The Nobel Peace prize has become somewhat of a joke. It's been handed out by politics, with prizes handed to people who have ordered attacks on civilians time and time again.
perl4ever 5y ago
I don't understand why one would be surprised at the recipients of the Peace Prize. Alfred Nobel made his fortune from producing weapons and oil. Rehabilitating the reputation of people responsible for vast numbers of deaths seems exactly appropriate for the Peace prize when that's its purpose from the beginning.
- 1cvmask 5y ago
  Agree completely. It is always NOT given to the deserving party based on it's prima facie claims. Of course the agenda is completely different to the stated one and hence their choice of the undeserving and oftentimes murderous vile people.
- karaterobot 5y ago
  What does that have to do with the selection of Nobel winners 125 years later? Honestly, what relationship could it possibly have? Are the awards haunted?
  - perl4ever 5y ago
    I think I agree that there's no reason that the awards must reflect historical precedent or some original intent or spirit. However, it's common to appeal to that sort of thing. How often do people belabor the absence of pedigree of the prize in economics? Those who don't believe the award has a "spirit" shouldn't complain about it being violated. If you don't have any expectations for the Nobel prizes, good for you!
F6F6FA 5y ago
How can you have integrity of the justice system if you don't have integrity of facts? What you call torture, is the isolation and lack-of-stimulus we put all prisoners through. This treatment is not specific to harass Assange, but Assange and his team wants special treatment specific to Assange. Assange is different in many ways. A journalist normally does not convince a suicidal army recruit in Iraq to search the local network for more encrypted files he and his team can crack themselves. The only country to reward such behavior with a medal would maybe be Russia.
- aunty_helen 5y ago
  Dumbest comment of the internet today. You think the guys that published the watergate stories just said "hey give us what you got and we'll see what we can do with it?" At best you're blatantly astroturfing. At least have the balls to stick your opinion to your account.
  - F6F6FA 5y ago
    Heh. Was not Watergate itself about breaking in and stealing documents? According to US, Assange went too far by playing this kid, asking him to use his privilege to scour the network for encrypted files and hand these over. How could Manning even had known of the contents? Or that Wikileaks was safe to trust for protecting its sources and avoiding state-actor influence? At best that was cyberpunk activism, not journalism. > At best you're blatantly astroturfing. What's the worst you got?
- shkkmo 5y ago
  > What you call torture It has been called torture by a large number of people, including Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture. You can dispute the definition, but it has a strong basis in international law. > A journalist normally does not convince a suicidal army recruit in Iraq to search the local network for more encrypted files he and his team can crack themselves. Journalists do a wide variety of things, sometimes those things are unethical, that doesn't stop them from being journalists.
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return1 5y ago
As if, facebook and twitter would not have banned him if he used their platform?

mc32 5y ago

That would be impossible. Can you imagine: United States imprisons Nobel prize laureate.

1cvmask 5y ago
I can imagine them imprisoning Nobel Prize laureates as they have bombed Nobel Prize recipients as well. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombing_n_5615690ce4b021e856d33d51 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombi...
- q1w2 5y ago
  The Nobel Peace prize has become somewhat of a joke. It's been handed out by politics, with prizes handed to people who have ordered attacks on civilians time and time again.

perl4ever 5y ago

I don't understand why one would be surprised at the recipients of the Peace Prize. Alfred Nobel made his fortune from producing weapons and oil. Rehabilitating the reputation of people responsible for vast numbers of deaths seems exactly appropriate for the Peace prize when that's its purpose from the beginning.

1cvmask 5y ago
Agree completely. It is always NOT given to the deserving party based on it's prima facie claims. Of course the agenda is completely different to the stated one and hence their choice of the undeserving and oftentimes murderous vile people.
karaterobot 5y ago
What does that have to do with the selection of Nobel winners 125 years later? Honestly, what relationship could it possibly have? Are the awards haunted?
- perl4ever 5y ago
  I think I agree that there's no reason that the awards must reflect historical precedent or some original intent or spirit. However, it's common to appeal to that sort of thing. How often do people belabor the absence of pedigree of the prize in economics? Those who don't believe the award has a "spirit" shouldn't complain about it being violated. If you don't have any expectations for the Nobel prizes, good for you!

F6F6FA 5y ago

How can you have integrity of the justice system if you don't have integrity of facts? What you call torture, is the isolation and lack-of-stimulus we put all prisoners through. This treatment is not specific to harass Assange, but Assange and his team wants special treatment specific to Assange. Assange is different in many ways. A journalist normally does not convince a suicidal army recruit in Iraq to search the local network for more encrypted files he and his team can crack themselves. The only country to reward such behavior with a medal would maybe be Russia.

aunty_helen 5y ago
Dumbest comment of the internet today. You think the guys that published the watergate stories just said "hey give us what you got and we'll see what we can do with it?" At best you're blatantly astroturfing. At least have the balls to stick your opinion to your account.
- F6F6FA 5y ago
  Heh. Was not Watergate itself about breaking in and stealing documents? According to US, Assange went too far by playing this kid, asking him to use his privilege to scour the network for encrypted files and hand these over. How could Manning even had known of the contents? Or that Wikileaks was safe to trust for protecting its sources and avoiding state-actor influence? At best that was cyberpunk activism, not journalism. > At best you're blatantly astroturfing. What's the worst you got?
shkkmo 5y ago
> What you call torture It has been called torture by a large number of people, including Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture. You can dispute the definition, but it has a strong basis in international law. > A journalist normally does not convince a suicidal army recruit in Iraq to search the local network for more encrypted files he and his team can crack themselves. Journalists do a wide variety of things, sometimes those things are unethical, that doesn't stop them from being journalists.
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return1 5y ago

As if, facebook and twitter would not have banned him if he used their platform?