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FYI: AdoptOpenJDK is now https://adoptium.net/ https://adoptium.net/ and the latest LTS version is 17.

justinclift 5y ago
Ugh. That seems like a really, really silly name change. Going from something obvious, to something that has no immediate relationship to java, jdk, or anything related. :/ I guess people will have to learn to remember it over time.
- layer8 5y ago
  Actually, the full name is Eclipse Adoptium Temurin now. O_o
- skissane 5y ago
  > Ugh. That seems like a really, really silly name change. When they became an Eclipse project, the Eclipse Foundation was concerned that "AdoptOpenJDK" might lead to trademark problems with Oracle, given that "OpenJDK" is an Oracle trademark. Absent explicit permission from Oracle to use a name incorporating "OpenJDK" (which has not been received), Eclipse said the name had to change.
- Cu3PO42 5y ago
  Some time ago I read a pertinent comment from someone working on JDK here on HN. Unfortunately I can't find it, so I'll have to paraphrase: Even though Adoptium has some big names backing it, they aren't big contributors to Java. This is relevant because it implies they get access to not-yet-publicly-diclosed vulnerabilities and the corresponding patches later than other projects. Rather, one should try to use a distribution by one of the major contributors, for example Red Hat or SAP. Since I cannot currently provide the source and I cannot personally verify this either, take this with a grain of salt.
  - solarengineer 5y ago
    You are undoubtedly referring to pron's comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28821316 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28821316
    - karianna 5y ago
      The folks who work at Adoptium contain many OpenJDK committers (especially from Red Hat and Microsoft) so it does contribute back (but you’ll see folks using their company addresses). I agree that can confuse folks
vips7L 5y ago
Same with Azul zulu. 17 is lts.
jeroenhd 5y ago
There's something funny about an OpenJDK release being hosted on a .net domain. dotnet really is a terrible name for a programming language and framework.
- lanstin 5y ago
  .net domain is for network operators and that sort of thing. Precedes and nothing to do with Microsoft dot net.
  - jeroenhd 5y ago
    Of course, that's where Microsoft's dumb name probably came from. They already had COM, needed a new name (COM+ sucked) so they went NET.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      They went with .NET because it was supposed to bring DCOM into the Cloud via SOAP. Except Cloud still wasn't a thing back then, and we had to go through the whole SOAP, XML-RPC, REST but not really, GraphQL, gRPC fashion cycle to come back to Microsoft's vision of Web APIs.

Ugh. That seems like a really, really silly name change. Going from something obvious, to something that has no immediate relationship to java, jdk, or anything related. :/ I guess people will have to learn to remember it over time.

layer8 5y ago
Actually, the full name is Eclipse Adoptium Temurin now. O_o
skissane 5y ago
> Ugh. That seems like a really, really silly name change. When they became an Eclipse project, the Eclipse Foundation was concerned that "AdoptOpenJDK" might lead to trademark problems with Oracle, given that "OpenJDK" is an Oracle trademark. Absent explicit permission from Oracle to use a name incorporating "OpenJDK" (which has not been received), Eclipse said the name had to change.
Cu3PO42 5y ago
Some time ago I read a pertinent comment from someone working on JDK here on HN. Unfortunately I can't find it, so I'll have to paraphrase: Even though Adoptium has some big names backing it, they aren't big contributors to Java. This is relevant because it implies they get access to not-yet-publicly-diclosed vulnerabilities and the corresponding patches later than other projects. Rather, one should try to use a distribution by one of the major contributors, for example Red Hat or SAP. Since I cannot currently provide the source and I cannot personally verify this either, take this with a grain of salt.
- solarengineer 5y ago
  You are undoubtedly referring to pron's comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28821316 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28821316
  - karianna 5y ago
    The folks who work at Adoptium contain many OpenJDK committers (especially from Red Hat and Microsoft) so it does contribute back (but you’ll see folks using their company addresses). I agree that can confuse folks

vips7L 5y ago

Same with Azul zulu. 17 is lts.

jeroenhd 5y ago

There's something funny about an OpenJDK release being hosted on a .net domain. dotnet really is a terrible name for a programming language and framework.

lanstin 5y ago
.net domain is for network operators and that sort of thing. Precedes and nothing to do with Microsoft dot net.
- jeroenhd 5y ago
  Of course, that's where Microsoft's dumb name probably came from. They already had COM, needed a new name (COM+ sucked) so they went NET.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    They went with .NET because it was supposed to bring DCOM into the Cloud via SOAP. Except Cloud still wasn't a thing back then, and we had to go through the whole SOAP, XML-RPC, REST but not really, GraphQL, gRPC fashion cycle to come back to Microsoft's vision of Web APIs.