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My point is that it doesn’t make sense to say “you called for defunding the police, we didn’t defund the police, things got worse, therefore your slogan is bad.
by tshaddox 5y ago
My point is that it doesn’t make sense to say “you called for defunding the police, we didn’t defund the police, things got worse, therefore your slogan is bad.”
- harry8 5y agoBecause no meaningful reform happened and whatever did happen doesn't, at face value, appear to be positive?
- tshaddox 5y agoI would want to evaluate the merits of a particular slogan by means other than whether the intended reform happened. It’s easy to say “no thanks” to reform regardless of how good of a slogan it is.
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoBut a misleadingly bad slogan makes it much more likely that people will say "no thanks". If what you said isn't what you meant, and what you said makes people reject what you meant, why did you say it? I suspect that proponents thought anger at the police was much more widely spread than it was, so they grabbed what they thought would sell.
- smsm42 5y agoThe slogan is bad because it channels the energy initiated by real problems into the worst idea possible. True, in many - though not all - cases this terrible idea was recognised as such even by the woke city managers and kept at the level of bloviating without doing much. That's still bad and the slogan still bad, and the opportunity wasted still bad. Not as bad as when this idea is actually implemented (not in Oakland but happened in other places afaik).