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this article has no content. just show some contextualized statistics of how police funding correlates with crime. in seattle, it really hasnt from what ive see

this article has no content. just show some contextualized statistics of how police funding correlates with crime. in seattle, it really hasnt from what ive seen. but if you have compelling numbers, go ahead

WalterBright 5y ago
Seattle crime statistics are misleading. It's been reported many times that since the police no longer even show up for shoplifting crimes, business owners no longer bother to report it. Nobody knows what the crime rate actually is as a result. But the accountants at the retail stores know, and they're raising prices, installing armored doors, or simply leaving the city. The local bank branch I patronize now sports an armed guard wearing body armor standing outside the door. It's only a block from the police station. Pretty sad.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  > The local bank branch I patronize now sports an armed guard wearing body armor standing outside the door. It's only a block from the police station. Pretty sad. Well that's certainly a vote of confidence for the professionalism and effectiveness for the police.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    If you want more indications, on the Seattle side the bank branches have heavy armored glass completely separating them from customers. On the eastside, no such glass. These are branches of the same bank.
- the_cat_kittles 5y ago
  spd total spending went up every year 2016 to 2020 i believe. doesnt that suggest the money isnt doing much?
  - sitkack 5y ago
    From my discussions with current SPD personnel, the SPD itself is doing a stop work protest. Money In doesn't mean Services Out (MISO), it only reaffirms the thuglike nature of our relationship with the police.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    This is 2021, not 2020. "In 2019, there were about 1,280 deployable officers in the Seattle Police Department. Today, the number of in-service cops stands at 1,015." https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/council-must-restore-police-funding-in-budget-vote/ https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/council-must... "The 2021 adopted SPD budget is nearly $363 million. During the previous budget cycle, the Mayor and City Council made about $70 million in cuts, but because of funds added elsewhere in the police budget, the net reduction was $46.1 million (about 11 percent) from the 2020 Adopted Budget of $409.1 million." https://www.aclu-wa.org/story/follow-the-money-policing-series https://www.aclu-wa.org/story/follow-the-money-policing-seri...
    - the_cat_kittles 5y ago
      when i look at the crime rate over the last 5 years, its doesnt seem to correlate with spending. 2019 being a good example. https://www.seattle.gov/police/information-and-data/crime-dashboard https://www.seattle.gov/police/information-and-data/crime-da...
raydev 5y ago
> this article has no content This is typical of Weiss. She's made a second career out of "radical left" scaremongering since getting fired from the NYT.

WalterBright 5y ago

Seattle crime statistics are misleading. It's been reported many times that since the police no longer even show up for shoplifting crimes, business owners no longer bother to report it. Nobody knows what the crime rate actually is as a result. But the accountants at the retail stores know, and they're raising prices, installing armored doors, or simply leaving the city. The local bank branch I patronize now sports an armed guard wearing body armor standing outside the door. It's only a block from the police station. Pretty sad.

throwawaygh 5y ago
> The local bank branch I patronize now sports an armed guard wearing body armor standing outside the door. It's only a block from the police station. Pretty sad. Well that's certainly a vote of confidence for the professionalism and effectiveness for the police.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  If you want more indications, on the Seattle side the bank branches have heavy armored glass completely separating them from customers. On the eastside, no such glass. These are branches of the same bank.
the_cat_kittles 5y ago
spd total spending went up every year 2016 to 2020 i believe. doesnt that suggest the money isnt doing much?
- sitkack 5y ago
  From my discussions with current SPD personnel, the SPD itself is doing a stop work protest. Money In doesn't mean Services Out (MISO), it only reaffirms the thuglike nature of our relationship with the police.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  This is 2021, not 2020. "In 2019, there were about 1,280 deployable officers in the Seattle Police Department. Today, the number of in-service cops stands at 1,015." https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/council-must-restore-police-funding-in-budget-vote/ https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/council-must... "The 2021 adopted SPD budget is nearly $363 million. During the previous budget cycle, the Mayor and City Council made about $70 million in cuts, but because of funds added elsewhere in the police budget, the net reduction was $46.1 million (about 11 percent) from the 2020 Adopted Budget of $409.1 million." https://www.aclu-wa.org/story/follow-the-money-policing-series https://www.aclu-wa.org/story/follow-the-money-policing-seri...
  - the_cat_kittles 5y ago
    when i look at the crime rate over the last 5 years, its doesnt seem to correlate with spending. 2019 being a good example. https://www.seattle.gov/police/information-and-data/crime-dashboard https://www.seattle.gov/police/information-and-data/crime-da...

raydev 5y ago

> this article has no content This is typical of Weiss. She's made a second career out of "radical left" scaremongering since getting fired from the NYT.