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When I saw the word "toxic" I was expecting standard issue misogyny, racist comments, or other standard "CHUD" behavior. What I see here is evidence of a team
by api 5y ago
When I saw the word "toxic" I was expecting standard issue misogyny, racist comments, or other standard "CHUD" behavior.
What I see here is evidence of a team that simply isn't experienced with running a serious organization and/or has personal issues around communication skills and personal organizational skills. That's not "toxic" but it is a serious scaling issue. In companies this usually necessitates bringing in someone in a senior executive role who is good at these things and empowering them to take over some of those functions.
Toxic to me implies actual covert or overt hostility.
- kodah 5y agoThis whole thing is fairly complex, but from what I read of the links above racism and sexism are a component of the broader story.
- zozbot234 5y agoPer this post, the core team has been overtly hostile to something as simple as maintaining an accurate, publicly-available list of Rust teams and working groups (which would include acknowledging alumni who are not actively contributing to the project). That's toxic behavior which is actively impeding people who might want to work on Rust. There's more to toxicity than "standard issue misogyny, racist comments" and the like.
- Xylakant 5y agoAnd it's also wrong: There's a list of rust alumni on the website and afaik, every person that has served on a team can be added there: https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/alumni https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/alumni The author of the post complaining about not maintaining a list of alumni is listed on that page.
- XAMPPRocky 5y agoThat list is there because I fought and pushed for that change to be there against the core team.
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