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You are all over the place sorry.

• Hizonner 5y ago
  No, you're unable to take my point unless I spell it out for you. Israel is in some important ways analogous to what the Nazis were trying to create. It is amazingly clueless for you to offer the Nazis as an example of why Israel should be around, when in fact they are an example of exactly why Israel should not be around. The creation of Israel fed into and sustains exactly the phenomenon that you claim it's there to protect against. Having states for "peoples" is part of the problem. People identifying with either real or imaginary "heritages" or "cultures" or "races" or "tribes" or whatever is a bad thing. Building governments around it is a worse thing. That includes Israel. And you compound that when you suggest that the way to protect somebody from violence is to have a state that's in the business of protecting that individual's "people". And, no, for the slower-minded readers, I am not claiming that anything Israel has actually done is the same as what the Nazis did.
  • joelbluminator 5y ago
    > It is amazingly clueless for you to offer the Nazis as an example of why Israel should be around, when in fact they are an example of exactly why Israel should not be around. You sound borderline anti semitic saying stuff like that. You have no idea how obtuse that is.
    • bmn__ 5y ago
      > You sound borderline anti semitic https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_disagreement https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_disagreement Is level 1 out of 6 the best you can do? If so, then that's lame. Respond to the central point that GP made, otherwise you might as well not bother participating on HN.
    • sndman 5y ago
      Not all anti-Zionists are antisemitic. And Zionism is not the same as Judaism. In fact, I would have a hard time finding one Jewish friend who was even mildly Zionist.
      • joelbluminator 5y ago
        You have a Jewish friend got it.