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Most movies make most of their money week one. Most songs make the bulk of income within a 3 month period. 3 years is longer than necessary. Perhaps this wou

by ipaddr 5y ago

Most movies make most of their money week one. Most songs make the bulk of income within a 3 month period. 3 years is longer than necessary. Perhaps this would affect less known artists. I would be willing to keep the copyright until the first 100,000 or 1,000,0000 worth of product is sold.

toast0 5y ago
> Most movies make most of their money week one. Most movies are fixed in a tangeble medium months before week one. Sometimes years. Component parts (principle filming, scripts, original music, if any) are routinely finished at least a year before release. A rush to get everything out to enjoy the full 3 years of income potential would further push out the couple of films a year made where people actually cared to do things right. 20-30 years might be right, though. Or one of the escalating fees for renewal after a reasonable period, preferably with a required deposit of the work so when it becomes public domain it can be easily distributed.
- jedberg 5y ago
  Copyright on a movie doesn't start until it's registered. The component parts are copyrighted upon creation but the entire work is a separate copyright. For example the Star Wars re-release is copyright 1997, even thought the bulk of it was created in 1975-76.
kube-system 5y ago
Only if: 1. You're only considering works published by huge multinational publishers with the gigantic marketing budgets required to get immediate traction 2. You assume that works are published on a large scale for their initial publishing Small time artists can spend years trying to get a work picked up by large publisher. Those who don't choose to use large publishers may be finding new audiences over longer periods. Assuming that copyright should be designed around the use-cases of Comcast or Disney is the reason we're in the position we're in now.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  The million dollar gross earnings should be a good match for those selling very few and should cover all but the most successful indie artist
Dylan16807 5y ago
> Most movies make most of their money week one. Sure, under the current system. The question is how many people that would have bought the media would just wait out the copyright. Once you're into these short lengths of time, it's a lot.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Most people don't wait until a movie comes on free tv before watching live, renting, buying or streaming.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    That's usually a long time. When you're talking about timelines as short as weeks, you're going to get a ton of people waiting. They might still go to a theater, even, but one with much cheaper tickets. How many at 3 years specifically? I'm not sure, but it's a risk to be considered.

by ipaddr 5y ago

toast0 5y ago

> Most movies make most of their money week one. Most movies are fixed in a tangeble medium months before week one. Sometimes years. Component parts (principle filming, scripts, original music, if any) are routinely finished at least a year before release. A rush to get everything out to enjoy the full 3 years of income potential would further push out the couple of films a year made where people actually cared to do things right. 20-30 years might be right, though. Or one of the escalating fees for renewal after a reasonable period, preferably with a required deposit of the work so when it becomes public domain it can be easily distributed.

jedberg 5y ago
Copyright on a movie doesn't start until it's registered. The component parts are copyrighted upon creation but the entire work is a separate copyright. For example the Star Wars re-release is copyright 1997, even thought the bulk of it was created in 1975-76.

kube-system 5y ago

Only if: 1. You're only considering works published by huge multinational publishers with the gigantic marketing budgets required to get immediate traction 2. You assume that works are published on a large scale for their initial publishing Small time artists can spend years trying to get a work picked up by large publisher. Those who don't choose to use large publishers may be finding new audiences over longer periods. Assuming that copyright should be designed around the use-cases of Comcast or Disney is the reason we're in the position we're in now.

ipaddr 5y ago
The million dollar gross earnings should be a good match for those selling very few and should cover all but the most successful indie artist

Dylan16807 5y ago

> Most movies make most of their money week one. Sure, under the current system. The question is how many people that would have bought the media would just wait out the copyright. Once you're into these short lengths of time, it's a lot.

ipaddr 5y ago
Most people don't wait until a movie comes on free tv before watching live, renting, buying or streaming.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  That's usually a long time. When you're talking about timelines as short as weeks, you're going to get a ton of people waiting. They might still go to a theater, even, but one with much cheaper tickets. How many at 3 years specifically? I'm not sure, but it's a risk to be considered.