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Yeah, moving from point A to point B autonomously without relying on public transit i.e. sharing space with other people totally depending on other people's whi

Yeah, moving from point A to point B autonomously without relying on public transit i.e. sharing space with other people totally depending on other people's whims and fancies should be a luxury.

Dah00n 5y ago
That's one way to look at it. Another is that you are driving a potential weapon and a dangerous machine. It should be treated as such. Maybe the price doesn't have to be high but unless you know of another way of making people think twice about loosing their license than money I see no other way than a high price. Besides, it isn't that expensive. Nowhere near being a luxury. It's only expensive when compared to the US system where you in most states are only paying for a piece of plastic, not tens of hours of people's time training you properly. Most European countries have the same system as Germany and the amount of traffic deaths and injured says it all. It's simply a better system even if not perfect.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  > Another is that you are driving a potential weapon and a dangerous machine. > It's simply a better system even if not perfect. Americans also like guns a lot more than is sane so you might not be convincing them. I've heard many people say they prefer big cars because they know if something goes wrong, its the other guy who gets hurt.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  > Besides, it isn't that expensive. Okay, but the argument was that it should be "extremely expensive". > It's only expensive when compared to the US system where you in most states are only paying for a piece of plastic, not tens of hours of people's time training you properly. I definitely paid my driving instructor. The labor cost at the licensing bureau was only about 15 worker-minutes.
warning26 5y ago
> totally depending on other people's whims and fancies Last time I checked trains run on a schedule, not the whims of the engineer, but maybe trains are really weird in your country.
throw10920 5y ago
> totally depending on other people's whims and fancies And that they're not infected with some novel disease... Public transit was pretty dangerous and way less useful during most of 2020.

Yeah, moving from point A to point B autonomously without relying on public transit i.e. sharing space with other people totally depending on other people's whims and fancies should be a luxury.

Dah00n 5y ago

That's one way to look at it. Another is that you are driving a potential weapon and a dangerous machine. It should be treated as such. Maybe the price doesn't have to be high but unless you know of another way of making people think twice about loosing their license than money I see no other way than a high price. Besides, it isn't that expensive. Nowhere near being a luxury. It's only expensive when compared to the US system where you in most states are only paying for a piece of plastic, not tens of hours of people's time training you properly. Most European countries have the same system as Germany and the amount of traffic deaths and injured says it all. It's simply a better system even if not perfect.

vineyardmike 5y ago
> Another is that you are driving a potential weapon and a dangerous machine. > It's simply a better system even if not perfect. Americans also like guns a lot more than is sane so you might not be convincing them. I've heard many people say they prefer big cars because they know if something goes wrong, its the other guy who gets hurt.
Dylan16807 5y ago
> Besides, it isn't that expensive. Okay, but the argument was that it should be "extremely expensive". > It's only expensive when compared to the US system where you in most states are only paying for a piece of plastic, not tens of hours of people's time training you properly. I definitely paid my driving instructor. The labor cost at the licensing bureau was only about 15 worker-minutes.

warning26 5y ago

> totally depending on other people's whims and fancies Last time I checked trains run on a schedule, not the whims of the engineer, but maybe trains are really weird in your country.

throw10920 5y ago

> totally depending on other people's whims and fancies And that they're not infected with some novel disease... Public transit was pretty dangerous and way less useful during most of 2020.