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Sorry friend, I was willing to engage with you in good natured debate but if you think that China's response will be cowering in fear then you are very much not

Sorry friend, I was willing to engage with you in good natured debate but if you think that China's response will be cowering in fear then you are very much not versed in what's going on in the world, especially regarding China's capabilities and government. China is a military power very close to the US in capability. China commands and enforces absolute loyalty from its citizens, and is more than happy to turn to genocide to do so. They would have the advantage logistically as the conflict is taking place right outside their doorstep. The US appetite for war would probably fade very quickly once deaths start pouring in while the Chinese would just be forced to trudge on. A war with China does not stay in China, China is very capable of hitting the US mainland. China has a surplus of young men, the US does not. What you think would be China just cowering in fear would quickly devolve into WWIII.

baybal2 5y ago
> China is a military power very close to the US in capability. False, Chinese military is numerically inferior to America, with nearly 4-fold disadvantage in combat aircraft, and already surrounded by US allies, and military assets. Ultimately, China don't have enough nuclear weapons to destroy enough US military bases to prevent effective retaliation.
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  Again, you are not paying attention to logistics. America has to get its military aircraft to China and then once there China has an overwhelming array of surface to air missiles it can deploy from its own territory. The fact that you had to say "China don't have enough nuclear weapons to destroy enough US military bases to prevent effective retaliation" proves the reason the US will not invade Myanmar. We are not going to get into a nuclear conflict over the conditions in another country, especially a conflict where we are seen as the aggressor. China has an estimated 300+ nuclear warheads; potentially more, and missiles that are more than capable of delivering them anywhere in the US mainland. My point is that China will not cower in fear and do nothing if the US invades Myanmar, the fact that you think they will is mind boggling.
  - baybal2 5y ago
    > China has an overwhelming array of surface to air missiles False, China has at most 10 long to medium range air defence regiments, most near its capital. For everything else, China's SAMs are outranged even by glide bombs. > China has an estimated 300+ nuclear warheads; potentially more That's obviously not enough to blunt even a quarter of US military potential, even if they have many times the number of missiles, or can launch them all in a surprise attack.
    - wonderwonder 5y ago
      Friend, lets assume everything you said is correct. Is your advice really that the US risk absorbing 300+ nuclear missiles to send a message on the treatment of people in Myanmar? It defies logic and is very much removed from both reality and the will of the US population.
dekhn 5y ago
This seems to completely ignore the US's significant naval advantage and nuclear superiority, as well as a large number of well-armed allies around the world, and its satellite infrastructure Also I think if US/China war happened, each country would break the other's civilian infrastructure (we know for sure that both countries actively probe the other's defences) badly enough that there would be serious threat to the health of billions of people, topple governments, and generally be harmful to a functioning economy.
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  China has demonstrated the ability to destroy satellites, generally has more battle ships than the US (although not aircraft carriers) and has missiles capable of sinking US ships. The entire argument is moot though, my point is that the US will not invade Myanmar because of the likely war with China that will result. Even if the US was able to defeat China, a likely situation, the victory would be pyrrhic as both countries would likely be devastated and have lost lives numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

baybal2 5y ago

> China is a military power very close to the US in capability. False, Chinese military is numerically inferior to America, with nearly 4-fold disadvantage in combat aircraft, and already surrounded by US allies, and military assets. Ultimately, China don't have enough nuclear weapons to destroy enough US military bases to prevent effective retaliation.

wonderwonder 5y ago
Again, you are not paying attention to logistics. America has to get its military aircraft to China and then once there China has an overwhelming array of surface to air missiles it can deploy from its own territory. The fact that you had to say "China don't have enough nuclear weapons to destroy enough US military bases to prevent effective retaliation" proves the reason the US will not invade Myanmar. We are not going to get into a nuclear conflict over the conditions in another country, especially a conflict where we are seen as the aggressor. China has an estimated 300+ nuclear warheads; potentially more, and missiles that are more than capable of delivering them anywhere in the US mainland. My point is that China will not cower in fear and do nothing if the US invades Myanmar, the fact that you think they will is mind boggling.
- baybal2 5y ago
  > China has an overwhelming array of surface to air missiles False, China has at most 10 long to medium range air defence regiments, most near its capital. For everything else, China's SAMs are outranged even by glide bombs. > China has an estimated 300+ nuclear warheads; potentially more That's obviously not enough to blunt even a quarter of US military potential, even if they have many times the number of missiles, or can launch them all in a surprise attack.
  - wonderwonder 5y ago
    Friend, lets assume everything you said is correct. Is your advice really that the US risk absorbing 300+ nuclear missiles to send a message on the treatment of people in Myanmar? It defies logic and is very much removed from both reality and the will of the US population.

dekhn 5y ago

This seems to completely ignore the US's significant naval advantage and nuclear superiority, as well as a large number of well-armed allies around the world, and its satellite infrastructure Also I think if US/China war happened, each country would break the other's civilian infrastructure (we know for sure that both countries actively probe the other's defences) badly enough that there would be serious threat to the health of billions of people, topple governments, and generally be harmful to a functioning economy.

wonderwonder 5y ago
China has demonstrated the ability to destroy satellites, generally has more battle ships than the US (although not aircraft carriers) and has missiles capable of sinking US ships. The entire argument is moot though, my point is that the US will not invade Myanmar because of the likely war with China that will result. Even if the US was able to defeat China, a likely situation, the victory would be pyrrhic as both countries would likely be devastated and have lost lives numbering in the hundreds of thousands.