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Most project models are sort of useless in the modern office environment. Waterfall is useless because nobody ever follows it. I agree that it’s sort of the “d
by moksly 5y ago
Most project models are sort of useless in the modern office environment.
Waterfall is useless because nobody ever follows it. I agree that it’s sort of the “default” mode, but show me a project that didn’t go back and change something from a previous step.
Agile stops working the moment you need to sign any form of contract with anyone, because nobody is going to sign a contract that doesn’t tell them what they are going to get for X amount of money. Its processes are sort of fine on the smaller scale because it breaks project tasks into neat to-do-lists, but it’s utterly useless for actual project management because estimates are a lie and delivering on time is what is required to drive a project successfully.
Then there is everything in between from the various stage-gate models to UP and what not, and they are all equally useless because nobody ever really follows them and because they can’t really apply to every type or project which is what organisations tend to want.
I haven’t worked in a FANG or whatever you call the big American tech companies, but I have worked in the European Public sector and it’s affiliated private sector companies for years, and nobody has a magic project model in my experience. In many ways the most successful companies tend to be the ones who simply use some sort of Kanban board and refrain from giving estimates in intervals lower than weeks. I fully understand why organisations waste resources on this area of course, I’ve been in the trap myself many, many times and I’ll likely end up in it again, but the simply truth is that every project manager or business process person that you have is one less developer, and these helper functions don’t really add anything to your value chain the moment they start making up work for the sake of having the “right” processes in place. The best way to handle project management is to hire good developers who know how to deliver projects that are build safely and maintainable. That’s not easy, but no amount of project management is going to make up for the lack of them.
And I’m not saying you shouldn’t need project managers or have an organisational strategy, but if you’re hiring more support staff for your developers than you would for the tradesmen you’d hire to build your house then I think that you’re doing management wrong.
We build an entire city hall, a process that took almost a thousand different employees from very, very, differently ones of work and we did it with 1 project manager, 1 architect and 10 lead engineers. We did it on time and under budget, and that is how we build our IT projects as well. It’s sort of waterfall, because it’s what we default to like the author gets into, but maybe that’s because it works?
- cowl 5y ago> Waterfall is useless because nobody ever follows it. I agree that it’s sort of the “default” mode, but show me a project that didn’t go back and change something from a previous step. The issue is not if they change something from a previous step but When and how often does this "checkpoint happen" You want an example of Waterfall? The SLS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System in development since 2011 and most probably will get scrapped once it finishes becasue the market sittuation has changed completly since then.
- baobabKoodaa 5y ago> Agile stops working the moment you need to sign any form of contract with anyone, because nobody is going to sign a contract that doesn’t tell them what they are going to get for X amount of money. Plenty of companies sign contracts like that, and it's not particularly controversial. Pay $X, get Y developers to work for T amount of time, with no guarantees what those developers are going to deliver.
- moksly 5y agoWhich companies? I’ve never seen anyone willing to do that in decades of contracting. Maybe it’s just different here in Denmark, but people never buy things here without knowing what they buy.
- baobabKoodaa 5y agoI'm not at liberty to disclose company names, but I live in Finland and I can tell you it's normal here. It's basically equivalent to "renting" workers. I would be willing to bet that "rent-a-worker" industry exists in Denmark as well, and that it also includes IT work.
- moksly 5y agoBut rent a worker is small scale. It is not signing a multi million euro contract. Consultants are a thing here, and they may be the closest companies get to not knowing what they buy. I mean, I’m not saying that the other way works. All our major IT systems are delayed and over budget, but there are detailed and outlined requirements that aren’t delivered.