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50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.
by darthrupert 5y ago
50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.
- lordfoom 5y agoThat's, like, just your opinion, man.
- mandmandam 5y ago> nobody should consume cannabis daily. Only a sith etc.. You do know there are low THC strains available? And that there are people who self medicate with cannabis for scores of reasons? What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? An increased risk of bronchitis? Some people would consider that a great trade for reduction of chronic pain, nausea, or seizures.
- nefitty 5y agoMedical use notwithstanding, people who use cannabis on a daily basis will probably tend to produce and pursue bad ideas. I've been there when I was younger. That state of mind is like turning the temperature up on the generative function in the mind. Lots of exciting, weird shit reveals itself to your conscious perception. On the other hand, our brains probably evolved to favor adaptive ideation. If that system's filters are always tweaked or turned off, then eventually the ideation will be misaligned with the "sober" environment.
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago> people who use cannabis on a daily basis will probably tend to produce and pursue bad ideas I'm convinced people just produce and pursue bad ideas in general. That's why our society functions best by rewarding people with good ideas, and making damn sure everybody knows the core ones, from language to mathematics. Every idea starts out bad, anyway. That's what design, engineering, and craft are for: Making ideas better until they're useful, beautiful, or good enough to experiment further with.
- mandmandam 5y agoThat's a fair and interesting point, worth looking at. I personally think that you're more right than wrong, and that while cannabis is great for idea generation, idea execution is somewhat hampered. But as has been pointed out, people are dumb. 90% of everything is bad. Remember when some guy came up with a "juice machine" that just squeezes capri-sun style juice pouches, that you got as a subscription service? And people gave him millions of dollars to build and market the thing? And were surprised when it failed spectacularly?
- pawelmurias 5y ago> What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? From observing people who are smoking multiple times per day (even 4+): An extremely happy-go-lucky attitude, often problems with memory and periodical total idiocy (while being baked of their goddam mind). They also tend to have little enjoyment due to increased tolerance and are mostly addicted (being sober is not comfortable for them).
- mandmandam 5y agoSounds like they're smoking high THC strains, and not for medical reasons. Did you miss that part of the comment? Ss for the dependency, I am aware of no study that shows lingering effects on anything after two weeks off. And it's much easier to break a cannabis dependency than, say, an alcohol dependency or most others.
- bryans 5y agoI smoke every day, but I've also come close to dying from it[0] on a number of occasions. There are definitely potential risks, but with that said, I completely agree with your points. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago"This article needs more medical references for verification [...]"
- bryans 5y agoThere are dozens of studies and hundreds of articles from every reputable source imaginable. Feel free to Google something sometime instead of trollishly dismissing a legitimate medical condition that people have died from. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/
- pmarreck 5y agoif this is the medical problem that the dude himself almost died from, I'm pretty sure there's some validity to it
- mandmandam 5y agoThanks, I actually hadn't heard of that. Did you try drinking more water?
- sudosteph 5y agoSomeone close to me suffered from this as well. It was pretty hellish. Even when it's not life-threatening, it made it pretty much impossible to go anywhere without weed accessible to keep it from triggering on withdrawal. He finally quit altogether which cured it, but lost 50 pounds in a few months because the CHS symptoms kept persisting for that long after quitting. We're pretty sure high-potency (legal) dabs were tied to his case, but regardless, it's very troubling to see people in the comments so dismissive on the science of CHS (and how much more common it has become in the past few years in particular).
- darthrupert 5y agoI'm worried that people who use it daily will compound the negative effects (memory effects being the most signifi ant, especially for us knowledge workers) and develop dependence. I actually approve of cannabis for recreational use, but in moderation.
- mam4 5y agoEven if i agree to part 2 of your messagr, part 1 shows gow disconnected from people who dont have that much money
- darthrupert 5y agoPeople who cannot afford recreational drugs should not be using recreational drugs. Medical use is a different thing of course.
- mam4 5y agoWe could probably change the world a whole lot of people who "should" or "shouldn't" do stuff were applying this principle
- junon 5y ago> nobody should consume cannabis daily Based on... what? Your opinion? Your parents? Your god? Because it's certainly not based on fact.
- darthrupert 5y agoIt's not good for you when used so frequently. Once or twice a week is fine, perhaps even good for you due to relaxing and mood-enhancing effects. Every day is stretching it and risking a dependence. But hey, I don't have to power to forbid you anything. I'm just saying how it is. You can just choose to ignore this and keep using every day.
- junon 5y agoBut you've not stated any studies backing this up. You're just passing by like a judgmental parent.
- darthrupert 5y agoAnd why does that seem to worry you so much? Do you worry that I'm right, or am I offending you by saying this?
- junon 5y agoBecause such assertions should be based on evidence.
- darthrupert 5y agoNo, I think you're wrong. When we're talking about recreational drugs, those who claim or imply that they're safe have the burden of proof.
- junon 5y agoErr, no, that's not how it works. You're the one who came to this conversation stating "nobody should use it daily", implying they are dangerous. The burden of proof falls on you.
- katbyte 5y agoNobody should really consume alcohol daily, yet a lot of people sure do.
- beerandt 5y agoAnd it's highly taxed and highly regulated, compared to most retail items.
- GordonS 5y agoI'm a medical user. What do you know that my doctor doesn't?
- darthrupert 5y agoYou don't seriously think you represent the majority of cannabis users, right?
- krageon 5y agoWhile medical marijuana is weaker than most strains you'd expect to buy, medical users are more likely to be daily users with a regularity most recreational smokers will never hit. In that sense, this is a good example case.
- GordonS 5y agoWhat? Of course not! You made a blanket statement, and I simply refuted that by pointing to a large group that doesn't fit with it.
- darthrupert 5y agoBut you are not claiming that there's no adverse effects with your medication? I'm not sure what we're arguing about here.
- GordonS 5y agoI'm simply claiming that your blanket statement is false - there are good reasons why some people would use it every day, and for whom the good effects outweigh any bad effects. In terms of bad effects, it's not as simple as "yes" or "no"; it's more about how much you use, as well as how often. For example, I use 10mg/THC oil at night, and vape up to 0.2g in the evening - the only adverse effect I have is some acid reflux from the oil, which is easily dealt with.
- pier25 5y agoWhen I was younger I consumed cannabis daily for years and I totally agree. Everyone is free to do whatever they want with their body, of course, but it had a negative impact on me.
- InfiniteRand 5y agoHealth wise, what is the impact of the smoking aspect of marijuana (vs other delivery methods), really just idly curious about this
- darthrupert 5y agoSmoking cannabis and tobacco have many of the same problems, I believe. It's probably a good idea to consume cannabis some other way.