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Some relevant information (https://twitter.com/avantgame/status/1467236223550779392 https://twitter.com/avantgame/status/1467236223550779392): > someone else r
by pizza234 5y ago
Some relevant information (https://twitter.com/avantgame/status/1467236223550779392 https://twitter.com/avantgame/status/1467236223550779392):
> someone else reported the same thing happened to them on Reddit recently, using the same RMA for a similar phone at the same Texas facility.
Taking the story as true, it'd seem to be case 1.
Taking the story as not true (case 3.), she's in a professional position where publicity wouldn't hurt.
Her report looks questonable (not necessarily false):
> They deleted Google security notifications in my backup email accounts.
If the accounts were backup, and she's a security-conscious person as she claims in the same post, how did they do that? They were backup, so they couldn't use the main account to reset them. I can think of the accounts being opened in different browsers, but it doesn't seem a very plausible scenario.
- tyingq 5y ago"backup" could mean the main account...where the phone data is "backed up".
- estaseuropano 5y agoJane is famous already with two NYT bestsellers. Why should she make up lies for attention? Really weird to immediately shoot/ad hominem the messenger
- LudwigNagasena 5y agoLots of people go into permanent irrelevance after a NYT bestseller.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago>Really weird to immediately shoot/ad hominem the messenger They said "If true, it's probably reason 1. If not true, here's a reasonable motivation." Hardly immediately shooting the messenger, more answering questions asked
- deft 5y agolol. Because people aren't always rational. And what does the NYT or her fame have to do with it? Anyone can lie at any time. And accusing someone of lying isn't ad hominem.
- naikrovek 5y agobelieve the victim until there is proof they made it up. victims making up stories in which they are the victim are exceedingly rare, in reality.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago> victims making up stories in which they are the victim are exceedingly rare, in reality. Not in my experience working retail/hospitality jobs. And lots of people crave attention. I see no reason to give either party more credence than the other absent evidence.
- camgunz 5y agoBut consider how many people shop. It's pretty likely that the number of people running retail scams is a small percentage. Doesn't make them any less soul-sucking to deal with, but that's not really the same thing.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoWhy is it relevant how many people shop? It seems to me the relevant metric is false positives and false negatives.
- camgunz 5y agoEh, ok fair. I was thinking like, percentage of consumers with legitimate complaints vs those with scams. I think that's relevant to the overarching discussion of "believe victims", but I agree at the complaint department the common denominator doesn't matter.
- floatingatoll 5y agoIt’s pretty common in the United States for people to default to “is she lying / seeking attention / getting revenge” when women report mistreatment by others, especially when sexuality is involved (as it is here). It’s a rampant and unfortunate gender bias, that is not well understood by many US men or by anyone beyond our borders.
- vinay427 5y ago> not well understood by many US men or by anyone beyond our borders. Is this satire, or did you actually mean to generalize _the entire world_ outside of the US with a statement that is still ostensibly politically controversial today (both in and out of the US)?
- e_proxus 5y agoIt’s a bit unclear, but I read it as that they thought not many people outside the US is aware of the bias inside the US.
- floatingatoll 5y agoYep, this, sorry for poor phrasing!
- vinay427 5y agoAhh, as the GP commenter I appreciate your clarification. Sorry for jumping to a less-than-ideal conclusion from your initial comment!
- jfrunyon 5y agoOr, you know, her story just makes absolutely no sense and is clearly non-factual. And if it were real she should be telling her story to a judge, not to Twitter. The assumption that anything a(n attractive) woman says is true is the real "rampant and unfortunate gender bias", to be honest. And yet somehow they never seem to be penalized even when they admit filing false reports, defamation, etc.
- firecall 5y agoMaybe she had multiple email accounts setup on the phone? I know I do!
- vorpalhex 5y agoYup, the only place my backup account is logged into is.. my phone. Whoops.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoYeah I've got three, one for family/friends, one for work/contracts, one for everything else (mostly signups)