6 ms·

>Because you can't see a video has a 1:9 like:dislike ratio to tell you it's not worth your time I see this argument every time dislikes are brought up but no

>Because you can't see a video has a 1:9 like:dislike ratio to tell you it's not worth your time I see this argument every time dislikes are brought up but no one seems to ever mention views as a third data point. I've never really paid attention to dislikes (other than hearing about dislike raids), but you can still see videos' like:view ratio, which IMO has always been more significant than dislikes anyway.

rhdunn 5y ago
I don't always like a video I've watched that I like. Especially when watching via a playlist with the video full screen.
throwuxiytayq 5y ago
No, you can't see it. You need to calculate it. Are you seriously suggesting that people will start doing math?
- deadmutex 5y ago
  like:dislike ratio (grandparent comment) is same math as like:view ratio (parent comment). :)
  - throwuxiytayq 5y ago
    Yes, except there used to be an extremely readable bar that would let you see the like/dislike ratio at a glance. Sure, you and I can do the math, establish a threshold value above which a video is worth watching (this was _much_ more intuitive with a like:dislike ratio btw), and compare that for each video. But can your mom do that? Can your kids do that? Can you do that while drunk? Can you do that with mind fog and high fever from Covid? Can you do that during a schizophrenic episode? Can you do that when you have early stage dementia? This change is an attack on the people most susceptible to manipulation. I am outraged that you're making up excuses.
  - BbzzbB 5y ago
    1:9 was merely an example of a video that is likely to be garbage or highly controversial (with exceptions, namely COVID & governmental videos), there was also a visual bar indicating where it sits at for people who find it hard to tell which number is larger than the other. That ratio was irrespective of engagement which is highly variable per video, creator or topic. To pretend it conveys the same amount of information is plain disingenuous for the sake of it.
raxxorrax 5y ago
You cannot infer anything aside "engagement" from that actually, but that is still an bad argument against just displaying the information.

rhdunn 5y ago

I don't always like a video I've watched that I like. Especially when watching via a playlist with the video full screen.

throwuxiytayq 5y ago

No, you can't see it. You need to calculate it. Are you seriously suggesting that people will start doing math?

deadmutex 5y ago
like:dislike ratio (grandparent comment) is same math as like:view ratio (parent comment). :)
- throwuxiytayq 5y ago
  Yes, except there used to be an extremely readable bar that would let you see the like/dislike ratio at a glance. Sure, you and I can do the math, establish a threshold value above which a video is worth watching (this was _much_ more intuitive with a like:dislike ratio btw), and compare that for each video. But can your mom do that? Can your kids do that? Can you do that while drunk? Can you do that with mind fog and high fever from Covid? Can you do that during a schizophrenic episode? Can you do that when you have early stage dementia? This change is an attack on the people most susceptible to manipulation. I am outraged that you're making up excuses.
- BbzzbB 5y ago
  1:9 was merely an example of a video that is likely to be garbage or highly controversial (with exceptions, namely COVID & governmental videos), there was also a visual bar indicating where it sits at for people who find it hard to tell which number is larger than the other. That ratio was irrespective of engagement which is highly variable per video, creator or topic. To pretend it conveys the same amount of information is plain disingenuous for the sake of it.

raxxorrax 5y ago

You cannot infer anything aside "engagement" from that actually, but that is still an bad argument against just displaying the information.