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It's stunning how often things like this get wildly upvoted. The video shows nothing at all about "YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the d

It's stunning how often things like this get wildly upvoted. The video shows nothing at all about "YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count"; the guy shows a comment of his that has nothing to do with the dislike count getting deleted, although he asserts without evidence that this is related to a different comment he made (which was not deleted) regarding the dislike count. A lot of people are successfully exploiting HN to spread false stories about controversial events.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
This one's funny because the actual behavior is egregious enough without having to be artificially inflated.
jafitc 5y ago
Of course. You can't be 100% certain. You know what else you can't be 100% certain of? How many dislikes this video got. It's one thing how the comment disappears. It's a whole other thing how you are asked to "take a screenshot of the disappeared comment to investigate". If you feel this singles out Google, think twice. Yes, Google definitely wasn't afraid to meddle with its search results for its own gains before. But there are other companies having practices just as shady. Like "how the Apple Podcasts app went from a 1.8-star score all the way to 4.6 stars in a month without any actual fixes" https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/19/22791968/apple-podcasts-star-score-review-prompt https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/19/22791968/apple-podcasts-... Hiding dislikes, disappearing comments, tricking users into reviewing unrelated services. There is a broader issue unfolding recently about platforms and transparency.
Brian_K_White 5y ago
Watch the first few seconds of the video again, and then it's your own comment which makes no sense.
Gigachad 5y ago
Tech companies get away with randomly and invisibly doing things to people which no one can verify or understand why. Yes of course we can't know why exactly this happened, but it's still youtube's fault for deleting all of these comments without explaining why.
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  The unfortunate reality, as anyone who's had to moderate online spaces can confirm, is that unexplained shadowbans are a necessary tool. Turn on showdead on HN some time, and you'll see some great examples of smart, coherent people who are incredibly dedicated to ruining the quality of discourse and couldn't be stopped by lesser measures. I was a big opponent of shadowbanning too until I spent some time moderating a subreddit.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago

This one's funny because the actual behavior is egregious enough without having to be artificially inflated.

jafitc 5y ago

Of course. You can't be 100% certain. You know what else you can't be 100% certain of? How many dislikes this video got. It's one thing how the comment disappears. It's a whole other thing how you are asked to "take a screenshot of the disappeared comment to investigate". If you feel this singles out Google, think twice. Yes, Google definitely wasn't afraid to meddle with its search results for its own gains before. But there are other companies having practices just as shady. Like "how the Apple Podcasts app went from a 1.8-star score all the way to 4.6 stars in a month without any actual fixes" https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/19/22791968/apple-podcasts-star-score-review-prompt https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/19/22791968/apple-podcasts-... Hiding dislikes, disappearing comments, tricking users into reviewing unrelated services. There is a broader issue unfolding recently about platforms and transparency.

Brian_K_White 5y ago

Watch the first few seconds of the video again, and then it's your own comment which makes no sense.

Gigachad 5y ago

Tech companies get away with randomly and invisibly doing things to people which no one can verify or understand why. Yes of course we can't know why exactly this happened, but it's still youtube's fault for deleting all of these comments without explaining why.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
The unfortunate reality, as anyone who's had to moderate online spaces can confirm, is that unexplained shadowbans are a necessary tool. Turn on showdead on HN some time, and you'll see some great examples of smart, coherent people who are incredibly dedicated to ruining the quality of discourse and couldn't be stopped by lesser measures. I was a big opponent of shadowbanning too until I spent some time moderating a subreddit.