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The actual truth is "long term consequences" from a vaccine, besides immunity are just not a thing. I bet you can't name one vaccine that has had a "long term

The actual truth is "long term consequences" from a vaccine, besides immunity are just not a thing. I bet you can't name one vaccine that has had a "long term consequence" that has emerged more than a few months after the vaccine was administered. It just doesn't happen. Its a bit like saying I've just developed an upset stomach, from that dodgy curry I ate last year.

megous 5y ago
Ok, find some significant published studies that tracked side effects (like headache or arm ache) of BNT162b2 over time (not just the typical "there was XYZ in first 7 days, and we don't care further") since the first dose. And tell me what % of people still reported the new onset symptoms still present say 3 months later. I'll wait. :) Or are you just sharing an opinion?
native_samples 5y ago
That's easy. Pandemrix caused brain damage in teenagers and it took five years+lawsuits for the authorities to finally admit it and pay compensation. Obviously, nothing was learned. That was for swine flu which was also subject to a mass hysteria at the time. Imagine the horrific consequences if Pandemrix had been mandated!
- _ph_ 5y ago
  I am aware of Pandemrix, but do you know that the likelyhood of getting narcolepsy was much higher when contracting the swine flue than from getting vaccinated? Of course it was not mandated, as the swine flu didn't become that large as initially feared. But if it had, the number of cases would have been orders of magnitude larger than those caused by the vaccine, as they were based on the same effect. And yes, a completely new flu is something to be afraid of, it can have very high death tolls.
- KiwiJohnno 5y ago
  I just read up on Pandemrix, thanks for the info. However, this does prove my point: The people who developed narcolepsy after this vaccine started showing symptoms one to two months after their vaccine.
codr7 5y ago
You really believe that? Then why are the hospitals filling up with vaccinated people? How about developing cancer from whatever?

megous 5y ago

Ok, find some significant published studies that tracked side effects (like headache or arm ache) of BNT162b2 over time (not just the typical "there was XYZ in first 7 days, and we don't care further") since the first dose. And tell me what % of people still reported the new onset symptoms still present say 3 months later. I'll wait. :) Or are you just sharing an opinion?

native_samples 5y ago

That's easy. Pandemrix caused brain damage in teenagers and it took five years+lawsuits for the authorities to finally admit it and pay compensation. Obviously, nothing was learned. That was for swine flu which was also subject to a mass hysteria at the time. Imagine the horrific consequences if Pandemrix had been mandated!

_ph_ 5y ago
I am aware of Pandemrix, but do you know that the likelyhood of getting narcolepsy was much higher when contracting the swine flue than from getting vaccinated? Of course it was not mandated, as the swine flu didn't become that large as initially feared. But if it had, the number of cases would have been orders of magnitude larger than those caused by the vaccine, as they were based on the same effect. And yes, a completely new flu is something to be afraid of, it can have very high death tolls.
KiwiJohnno 5y ago
I just read up on Pandemrix, thanks for the info. However, this does prove my point: The people who developed narcolepsy after this vaccine started showing symptoms one to two months after their vaccine.

codr7 5y ago

You really believe that? Then why are the hospitals filling up with vaccinated people? How about developing cancer from whatever?