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What is absurd is banning books because of a few unsubstantiated stories.

Supermancho 5y ago
I'll guess you're so sure of your worldview that it wasn't worth a google search. SMH The stories of paper goods (including mail) being soaked is prevalent.
- Talanes 5y ago
  Googled it. I found some vague references to it having happened, or having been stopped in the act, but not like a news report. The more prevalent an idea is without having any actual evidence, the less I trust it.
  - adolph 5y ago
    Seems like a real thing: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-ne-fugitive-roy-kahn-kingpin-pimp-smuggled-dope-federal-prison-20190924-xgwxe5fz3rf77ijjn2aqh5kydy-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-ne-fugitive-roy-k... Someone was mailing drugs into federal prisons, disguising papers soaked in MDMA (commonly known as ecstasy), fentanyl, synthetic marijuana and Suboxone, an opioid dependence treatment, as confidential legal communication in order to sneak them past guards. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1015447281/overdose-deaths-state-prisons-increase https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1015447281/overdose-deaths-st... Friends and family can tuck strips of paper soaked with drugs into mail or books, and if they get past the mail room, people in prison can eat them, or roll them up and smoke them. https://bangordailynews.com/2020/06/25/news/state/3-maine-women-charged-with-selling-heroin-as-part-of-new-york-to-maine-drug-ring/ https://bangordailynews.com/2020/06/25/news/state/3-maine-wo... Three Maine women have been accused of being associates to a New York City street gang called the Bullies that allegedly used vehicles with hidden compartments and comic book pages soaked in narcotics as part of their multi-state distribution of cocaine, heroin, guns and money between Maine and New York for 3 ½ years. Found on first page of: https://www.google.com/search?q=heroin+soaked+book https://www.google.com/search?q=heroin+soaked+book
    - kingcharles 5y ago
      It's real. It's mostly roach spray though: https://lumierehealingcenters.com/2018/07/12/drug-alert-smoking-raid-bug-spray/ https://lumierehealingcenters.com/2018/07/12/drug-alert-smok... I just got out of jail. This stuff is EVERYWHERE.
- bigbillheck 5y ago
  > The stories of paper goods (including mail) being soaked is prevalent. I didn't believe it when it was LSD getting to kids : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_star_tattoo_legend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_star_tattoo_legend and I don't believe it now.
  - quickthrowman 5y ago
    There is no financial reward in giving LSD to kids so that’s obviously fake. There is an enormous financial incentive to smuggle drugs into prisons by any means, and soaking drugs in paper has been done all over the place. Here are 3 cases: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/eleven-people-indicted-roles-conspiracy-distribute-synthetic-narcotics-federal-prison https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/eleven-people-indicted-... https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/multi-state-drug-smuggling-prison-ring-dismantled https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/multi-state-drug-smuggl... https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/two-sci-inmates-two-allegheny-county-residents-charged-schemes-smuggle-synthetic https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/two-sci-inmates-two-all...
  - nitrogen 5y ago
    LSD gets to kids in e.g. cake sprinkles. There was an incident with students hallucinating at my junior high (a long time ago), and I overheard some of the responsible kids talking about it later on.
    - wumpus 5y ago
      Excellent reason to ban all books in prisons.
kingcharles 5y ago
Not unsubstantiated. See my post above. I saw it all day, every day when in jail. I just got out in July.

I'll guess you're so sure of your worldview that it wasn't worth a google search. SMH The stories of paper goods (including mail) being soaked is prevalent.

Talanes 5y ago
Googled it. I found some vague references to it having happened, or having been stopped in the act, but not like a news report. The more prevalent an idea is without having any actual evidence, the less I trust it.
- adolph 5y ago
  Seems like a real thing: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-ne-fugitive-roy-kahn-kingpin-pimp-smuggled-dope-federal-prison-20190924-xgwxe5fz3rf77ijjn2aqh5kydy-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-ne-fugitive-roy-k... Someone was mailing drugs into federal prisons, disguising papers soaked in MDMA (commonly known as ecstasy), fentanyl, synthetic marijuana and Suboxone, an opioid dependence treatment, as confidential legal communication in order to sneak them past guards. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1015447281/overdose-deaths-state-prisons-increase https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1015447281/overdose-deaths-st... Friends and family can tuck strips of paper soaked with drugs into mail or books, and if they get past the mail room, people in prison can eat them, or roll them up and smoke them. https://bangordailynews.com/2020/06/25/news/state/3-maine-women-charged-with-selling-heroin-as-part-of-new-york-to-maine-drug-ring/ https://bangordailynews.com/2020/06/25/news/state/3-maine-wo... Three Maine women have been accused of being associates to a New York City street gang called the Bullies that allegedly used vehicles with hidden compartments and comic book pages soaked in narcotics as part of their multi-state distribution of cocaine, heroin, guns and money between Maine and New York for 3 ½ years. Found on first page of: https://www.google.com/search?q=heroin+soaked+book https://www.google.com/search?q=heroin+soaked+book
  - kingcharles 5y ago
    It's real. It's mostly roach spray though: https://lumierehealingcenters.com/2018/07/12/drug-alert-smoking-raid-bug-spray/ https://lumierehealingcenters.com/2018/07/12/drug-alert-smok... I just got out of jail. This stuff is EVERYWHERE.
bigbillheck 5y ago
> The stories of paper goods (including mail) being soaked is prevalent. I didn't believe it when it was LSD getting to kids : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_star_tattoo_legend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_star_tattoo_legend and I don't believe it now.
- quickthrowman 5y ago
  There is no financial reward in giving LSD to kids so that’s obviously fake. There is an enormous financial incentive to smuggle drugs into prisons by any means, and soaking drugs in paper has been done all over the place. Here are 3 cases: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/eleven-people-indicted-roles-conspiracy-distribute-synthetic-narcotics-federal-prison https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/eleven-people-indicted-... https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/multi-state-drug-smuggling-prison-ring-dismantled https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/multi-state-drug-smuggl... https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/two-sci-inmates-two-allegheny-county-residents-charged-schemes-smuggle-synthetic https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/two-sci-inmates-two-all...
- nitrogen 5y ago
  LSD gets to kids in e.g. cake sprinkles. There was an incident with students hallucinating at my junior high (a long time ago), and I overheard some of the responsible kids talking about it later on.
  - wumpus 5y ago
    Excellent reason to ban all books in prisons.

kingcharles 5y ago

Not unsubstantiated. See my post above. I saw it all day, every day when in jail. I just got out in July.