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>It even works on mobile! Recently I've been having trouble pinpointing sarcasm on the web. That can't be real, can it? Mobile traffic has been larger than des

>It even works on mobile! Recently I've been having trouble pinpointing sarcasm on the web. That can't be real, can it? Mobile traffic has been larger than desktop for over a decade. We've been hammering mobile-first for almost that long. If that was a joke, sorry it passed right over my head. Also, GIFs… in 2021? We've had <video>, <canvas>, <svg> for what, 15 years?

tantalor 5y ago
I think the point of this comment was to distinguish the interaction on desktop (hover) versus mobile (click). Desktop users are used to hovering on stuff to see what happens. You can't do that on mobile so you have to do something else (click) which is kind of counter-intuitive on mobile (clicks are supposed to navigate).
huhtenberg 5y ago
> Mobile traffic has been larger than desktop for over a decade. For cat videos - most likely. But for sites selling (enterprise) software and services - almost certainly not. > We've been hammering mobile-first for almost that long. Do you work for Google? That's pretty much the only "we" that's been hammering that.
- tambourine_man 5y ago
  >For cat videos - most likely. Not at all [1] https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/#gref https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/#gref [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-... >Do you work for Google? That's pretty much the only "we" that's been hammering that. Nope. It's just everyone, really. [3] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Responsive/Mobile_first https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web... [4] https://xd.adobe.com/ideas/process/ui-design/what-is-mobile-first-design/ https://xd.adobe.com/ideas/process/ui-design/what-is-mobile-...
  - huhtenberg 5y ago
    [1] talks about using mobile devices to "close deals", which is not the same as a b2b web traffic. [2] doesn't talk about b2b segment at all. People who are buying products and services, especially of IT nature, sit in the office in front of their laptops and desktops. We have an installable desktop product. Guess the percentage of mobile traffic on its website? It's 5%. Five. So, yeah, "it even works on mobile" makes for a good quip.
    - slantyyz 5y ago
      When I'm browsing on my phone, I usually find myself opening a site with a "mobile" ui in desktop mode, because the mobile version is usually inferior to the desktop version.
    - tambourine_man 5y ago
      There are exceptions to every rule, of course, and b2b/enterprise is its own little world with infamous idiosyncrasies. But a low percentage of mobile traffic could also be a self fulfilling prophecy. If your mobile site sucks, well, guess who's going to use it. Also, it's not that hard to make a good mobile site, you actuality have to a get out of your way to make a bad one if you follow best practices. I wouldn't mind an easy increase in my income, even a few percent.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  > Do you work for Google? That's pretty much the only "we" that's been hammering that. Apple and Microsoft too. And Microsoft doesn't even have anything competitive to offer there. But yeah, the rest of the world has been busy ignoring those 3.

tantalor 5y ago

I think the point of this comment was to distinguish the interaction on desktop (hover) versus mobile (click). Desktop users are used to hovering on stuff to see what happens. You can't do that on mobile so you have to do something else (click) which is kind of counter-intuitive on mobile (clicks are supposed to navigate).

huhtenberg 5y ago

> Mobile traffic has been larger than desktop for over a decade. For cat videos - most likely. But for sites selling (enterprise) software and services - almost certainly not. > We've been hammering mobile-first for almost that long. Do you work for Google? That's pretty much the only "we" that's been hammering that.

tambourine_man 5y ago
>For cat videos - most likely. Not at all [1] https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/#gref https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/#gref [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-... >Do you work for Google? That's pretty much the only "we" that's been hammering that. Nope. It's just everyone, really. [3] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Responsive/Mobile_first https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web... [4] https://xd.adobe.com/ideas/process/ui-design/what-is-mobile-first-design/ https://xd.adobe.com/ideas/process/ui-design/what-is-mobile-...
- huhtenberg 5y ago
  [1] talks about using mobile devices to "close deals", which is not the same as a b2b web traffic. [2] doesn't talk about b2b segment at all. People who are buying products and services, especially of IT nature, sit in the office in front of their laptops and desktops. We have an installable desktop product. Guess the percentage of mobile traffic on its website? It's 5%. Five. So, yeah, "it even works on mobile" makes for a good quip.
  - slantyyz 5y ago
    When I'm browsing on my phone, I usually find myself opening a site with a "mobile" ui in desktop mode, because the mobile version is usually inferior to the desktop version.
  - tambourine_man 5y ago
    There are exceptions to every rule, of course, and b2b/enterprise is its own little world with infamous idiosyncrasies. But a low percentage of mobile traffic could also be a self fulfilling prophecy. If your mobile site sucks, well, guess who's going to use it. Also, it's not that hard to make a good mobile site, you actuality have to a get out of your way to make a bad one if you follow best practices. I wouldn't mind an easy increase in my income, even a few percent.
marcosdumay 5y ago
> Do you work for Google? That's pretty much the only "we" that's been hammering that. Apple and Microsoft too. And Microsoft doesn't even have anything competitive to offer there. But yeah, the rest of the world has been busy ignoring those 3.