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> FWIW, you've also championed transparency and decentralization for your platform more than any other SV social media titan Twitter don't even have an RSS fee

> FWIW, you've also championed transparency and decentralization for your platform more than any other SV social media titan Twitter don't even have an RSS feed let alone championing decentralisation.

whyrusleeping 5y ago
I assume you havent seen https://twitter.com/bluesky https://twitter.com/bluesky ?
- riffic 5y ago
  bah - bluesky is not going anywhere. this "project" deserves scorn, derision, and cynicism until the board of directors shut it down for being a waste of time.
- madeofpalk 5y ago
  Software ships.
riffic 5y ago
http://cdevroe.com/2021/10/26/bluesky-status/ http://cdevroe.com/2021/10/26/bluesky-status/ love this bit: "The truth is that Twitter could become decentralized almost overnight by simply adding some JSON-LD serializers, an inbox endpoint and maybe tweaking their storage schema slightly to become part of the fediverse – anyone who wouldn’t want to use twitter.com could follow twitter.com users from their own server and so on. That does not require 2 years of making people who don’t work for you talk to each other."
- gojomo 5y ago
  Indeed. If Dorsey wanted Twitter to be "open", he'd open it. Instead he's closed it & started a sideshow to further distract those who could create credible challenges to Twitter.
- standardly 5y ago
  Did anyone tell them? Maybe they just didn't know how
- aerosmile 5y ago
  The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. We can speculate why Jack left, but the lagging stock price certainly didn't help him. So if anything, rather than criticizing him for not giving away the content for free, it seems the guy should have done more of the opposite (to prevent someone else taking his job who will do all that and then some).
  - jessaustin 5y ago
    The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and didn't even make money as a result. A better idea has been obvious for more than a decade. Twitter is most valuable to the "influencers" who have lots of monetizable followers, e.g. the various Kardashians with their beauty tips. Therefore, those influencers should be charged for the value that Twitter represents to them. They would gladly pay a percentage of the fees they receive for marketing the various products they recommend, for a Twitter experience that made that marketing more effective. It's hard to imagine why Twitter executives have missed this.
    - riffic 5y ago
      holy crap, yes, this is exactly how Twitter can monetize decentralization. Charge the kardashian clan x amount of dollars to run a managed version of Twitter's software on kardashian.com and allow for full interoperability with other services that speak a common protocol (the w3c has a protocol. use it!) you can also have governments and other institutional actors running the hosted software (then you can have @AOC@HOUSE.gov and @Biden@Whitehouse.gov and @x@doj.gov and @professor@mit.edu and @talkinghead@nbc.com) these all can operate as white-labeled instances of the managed Twitter service (basically, how Google Apps worked but with Twitter's software).
Kinrany 5y ago
They at least talk about decentralization. This definitely qualifies as more than any other comparably large social media.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
  I'm not so sure. The illusion of action could be worse than indifference. Who would build a service/standard that Twitter could make obsolete/outmoded in one day, with potentially billions of $ against it?
  - serf 5y ago
    >I'm not so sure. The illusion of action could be worse than indifference. absolutely right. the concept of 'squatting' on an idea so that it remains untouched in the market is an obvious strategy and likely used by many large groups.
  - Kinrany 5y ago
    We have the technology but most people don't care about decentralization. Even paying lip service helps as an admission that decentralization is good for users.
smsm42 5y ago
They are actively making even access to individual tweets very cumbersome to people without logins. I guess maybe compared to something like facebook where you are completely blocked without login it's ok, but "almost inaccessible" is only a small step ahead of "completely inaccessible" - that's hardly championing anything, let alone "decentralization" which Twitter is actively hostile to.
- Goety 5y ago
  This is one thing that has bothered me with recent twitter.
  - katbyte 5y ago
    I just stopped clicking on Twitter links
    - boogies 5y ago
      I just installed https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redirect/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redir... to automatically fix them, and I manually s/twitter.com/nitter.*/ on non-FF browsers.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
    nitter.net to the rescue
    - teitoklien 5y ago
      But for how long ?
      - 3np 5y ago
        It's easy enough to self-host. You could always route it through a VPN/Tor/I2P if you care about anonymity.
JohnHaugeland 5y ago
https://rss.app/blog/how-to-create-rss-feeds-from-twitter-PMsbbO https://rss.app/blog/how-to-create-rss-feeds-from-twitter-PM...

whyrusleeping 5y ago

I assume you havent seen https://twitter.com/bluesky https://twitter.com/bluesky ?

riffic 5y ago
bah - bluesky is not going anywhere. this "project" deserves scorn, derision, and cynicism until the board of directors shut it down for being a waste of time.
madeofpalk 5y ago
Software ships.

riffic 5y ago

http://cdevroe.com/2021/10/26/bluesky-status/ http://cdevroe.com/2021/10/26/bluesky-status/ love this bit: "The truth is that Twitter could become decentralized almost overnight by simply adding some JSON-LD serializers, an inbox endpoint and maybe tweaking their storage schema slightly to become part of the fediverse – anyone who wouldn’t want to use twitter.com could follow twitter.com users from their own server and so on. That does not require 2 years of making people who don’t work for you talk to each other."

gojomo 5y ago
Indeed. If Dorsey wanted Twitter to be "open", he'd open it. Instead he's closed it & started a sideshow to further distract those who could create credible challenges to Twitter.
standardly 5y ago
Did anyone tell them? Maybe they just didn't know how
aerosmile 5y ago
The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. We can speculate why Jack left, but the lagging stock price certainly didn't help him. So if anything, rather than criticizing him for not giving away the content for free, it seems the guy should have done more of the opposite (to prevent someone else taking his job who will do all that and then some).
- jessaustin 5y ago
  The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and didn't even make money as a result. A better idea has been obvious for more than a decade. Twitter is most valuable to the "influencers" who have lots of monetizable followers, e.g. the various Kardashians with their beauty tips. Therefore, those influencers should be charged for the value that Twitter represents to them. They would gladly pay a percentage of the fees they receive for marketing the various products they recommend, for a Twitter experience that made that marketing more effective. It's hard to imagine why Twitter executives have missed this.
  - riffic 5y ago
    holy crap, yes, this is exactly how Twitter can monetize decentralization. Charge the kardashian clan x amount of dollars to run a managed version of Twitter's software on kardashian.com and allow for full interoperability with other services that speak a common protocol (the w3c has a protocol. use it!) you can also have governments and other institutional actors running the hosted software (then you can have @AOC@HOUSE.gov and @Biden@Whitehouse.gov and @x@doj.gov and @professor@mit.edu and @talkinghead@nbc.com) these all can operate as white-labeled instances of the managed Twitter service (basically, how Google Apps worked but with Twitter's software).

Kinrany 5y ago

They at least talk about decentralization. This definitely qualifies as more than any other comparably large social media.

rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
I'm not so sure. The illusion of action could be worse than indifference. Who would build a service/standard that Twitter could make obsolete/outmoded in one day, with potentially billions of $ against it?
- serf 5y ago
  >I'm not so sure. The illusion of action could be worse than indifference. absolutely right. the concept of 'squatting' on an idea so that it remains untouched in the market is an obvious strategy and likely used by many large groups.
- Kinrany 5y ago
  We have the technology but most people don't care about decentralization. Even paying lip service helps as an admission that decentralization is good for users.

smsm42 5y ago

They are actively making even access to individual tweets very cumbersome to people without logins. I guess maybe compared to something like facebook where you are completely blocked without login it's ok, but "almost inaccessible" is only a small step ahead of "completely inaccessible" - that's hardly championing anything, let alone "decentralization" which Twitter is actively hostile to.

Goety 5y ago
This is one thing that has bothered me with recent twitter.
- katbyte 5y ago
  I just stopped clicking on Twitter links
  - boogies 5y ago
    I just installed https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redirect/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redir... to automatically fix them, and I manually s/twitter.com/nitter.*/ on non-FF browsers.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
  nitter.net to the rescue
  - teitoklien 5y ago
    But for how long ?
    - 3np 5y ago
      It's easy enough to self-host. You could always route it through a VPN/Tor/I2P if you care about anonymity.

JohnHaugeland 5y ago

https://rss.app/blog/how-to-create-rss-feeds-from-twitter-PMsbbO https://rss.app/blog/how-to-create-rss-feeds-from-twitter-PM...