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> Gone are the days when you might stumble across an ISIS beheading video on youtube. Good? Do you want kids to accidentally watch one of those videos?

by mlac 5y ago

shrimp_emoji 5y ago
No! Make sure no kids ever see anything bad. Incidentally, since the Internet can't truly age gate, this means no adults will either. People in third world countries who want to show the rest of the world what's happening around them will have to be up to speed on what the right-wing conspiracist backwater of the week happens to be, since that's the place where any and all advertiser-unfriendly content will be concentrated. (Yay.)
voldacar 5y ago
I would rather that than the internet be sanitized and homogenized, yes.
muzani 5y ago
ISIS beheadings highlight a part of the world that many don't know. I was in school when 9/11 happened, and there was this shock everywhere. People were thinking "Why is the world so evil?" Or some variation of "Why is Islam/Arabs so evil?" We spent years debating this kind of thing, on forums, poking at Islam, Arabs, US middle eastern policy, Israel, and so on. Some reach the wrong conclusion, but many come out of that understanding the world much better. It also highlights different worldviews. My aunt told me people would do anything for money, but it was clear money wasn't the case here. Something ran much deeper than money and power. I think the beheading videos give us a better sense of reality than say, Facebook or Twitter. I'd much rather my kids watch gore somewhere rather than read through politics on social media. There's the initial shock, but it's like the kids slamming the finger on the door. The injury is inevitable, but they learn from it.
disambiguation 5y ago
Some day kids become adults. It's not about wanting someone to see something arbitrarily cruel, but about knowing the raw truth about how the world works.
mlac 5y ago
I’m replying to my own comment, because the responses to this all fall along the same line. I’d argue that YouTube should NOT contain this material. It shouldn’t be outright banned, but there should be sites where you can let your kids watch educational videos and not worry about a beheading autoplaying. YouTube is so popular that I’d argue they fall into that category. I see the argument (kids should see this! They have to grow up sometime!), and yes - they need to know evil exists in the world and that bad things happen. But allowing it to just pop up on YouTube without any outside context or guidance (e.g. -this is NOT normal, and it should be disturbing) along with processing death should be provided. Otherwise you could seriously screw kids up. So no - I don’t want the Wild West to exist on the entire internet.

> Gone are the days when you might stumble across an ISIS beheading video on youtube. Good? Do you want kids to accidentally watch one of those videos?

by mlac 5y ago

> Gone are the days when you might stumble across an ISIS beheading video on youtube. Good? Do you want kids to accidentally watch one of those videos?

shrimp_emoji 5y ago

No! Make sure no kids ever see anything bad. Incidentally, since the Internet can't truly age gate, this means no adults will either. People in third world countries who want to show the rest of the world what's happening around them will have to be up to speed on what the right-wing conspiracist backwater of the week happens to be, since that's the place where any and all advertiser-unfriendly content will be concentrated. (Yay.)

voldacar 5y ago

I would rather that than the internet be sanitized and homogenized, yes.

muzani 5y ago

ISIS beheadings highlight a part of the world that many don't know. I was in school when 9/11 happened, and there was this shock everywhere. People were thinking "Why is the world so evil?" Or some variation of "Why is Islam/Arabs so evil?" We spent years debating this kind of thing, on forums, poking at Islam, Arabs, US middle eastern policy, Israel, and so on. Some reach the wrong conclusion, but many come out of that understanding the world much better. It also highlights different worldviews. My aunt told me people would do anything for money, but it was clear money wasn't the case here. Something ran much deeper than money and power. I think the beheading videos give us a better sense of reality than say, Facebook or Twitter. I'd much rather my kids watch gore somewhere rather than read through politics on social media. There's the initial shock, but it's like the kids slamming the finger on the door. The injury is inevitable, but they learn from it.

disambiguation 5y ago

Some day kids become adults. It's not about wanting someone to see something arbitrarily cruel, but about knowing the raw truth about how the world works.

mlac 5y ago

I’m replying to my own comment, because the responses to this all fall along the same line. I’d argue that YouTube should NOT contain this material. It shouldn’t be outright banned, but there should be sites where you can let your kids watch educational videos and not worry about a beheading autoplaying. YouTube is so popular that I’d argue they fall into that category. I see the argument (kids should see this! They have to grow up sometime!), and yes - they need to know evil exists in the world and that bad things happen. But allowing it to just pop up on YouTube without any outside context or guidance (e.g. -this is NOT normal, and it should be disturbing) along with processing death should be provided. Otherwise you could seriously screw kids up. So no - I don’t want the Wild West to exist on the entire internet.