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If it gets disagreed with a bunch, then it stops being shown. Seems like that’s working as intended.
by wffurr 5y ago
If it gets disagreed with a bunch, then it stops being shown. Seems like that’s working as intended.
- pseudalopex 5y agoThe claim was no trolling. Not trolling gets hidden eventually. Other systems hide unpopular statements too. Trolls can work together. And Polis shows the most agreed and disagreed statements apparently.
- patcon 5y agoIf the claim made it seem that trolls somehow totally disappear, then it was def mis-articulated. Trolls get minimized. For instance, there's currently a small troll group of 3 participants in the viz (out of 100 total participants), far off to the left. But the system doesn't invite reactions to them, and it's evident they're fringe, due to placement in the opinion space. they don't get elevated by our reactions to them, and so it's trivial to discount them while reading the visualization. It's similar to how it works in an IRL discussion in a room. If someone is trolling, you can understand that by their relation to others in the room (where people direct their eyes, stepping toward/away from them, whether facial expressions respond to their ideas). You discount their views accordingly. Polis allows for some of that intuition to return, in a simple visual medium without our physical bodies.
- pseudalopex 5y agoFringe and troll mean different things. And any system with votes makes unpopularity evident. The problem with trolls isn't not knowing if they're sincere. It's the ratio of signal to noise. And it was bad even without the trolls. Half the statements didn't answer the question.