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Hyper inflation drives people to buy goods that can be resold later for more. This happened in CCCP while it was falling apart. People would show up with all th

Hyper inflation drives people to buy goods that can be resold later for more. This happened in CCCP while it was falling apart. People would show up with all their money every morning at their local stores, buying whatever was available no matter what it was. They could resell it later for more money (effort to preserve the value of the currency they held). Apple products are a safe bet as they typically hold on to their value well, are small and convenient to hang onto (refrigerators are more difficult), and can be sold abroad, etc.

eterm 5y ago
It's very odd to write CCCP in an otherwise english paragraph in latin alphabet. YOu would be better understood to write USSR or better just write Soviet Union. (For those unfamiliar, CCCP is SSSR in cyrillic alphabet).
- joshgachnang 5y ago
  Ah thank you! I was thinking China but that's CCP. I was wondering if I was missing something from history.
- harpiaharpyja 5y ago
  If you stop to think about it yes it is pretty odd, but enough people do this that I don't have to think twice when I see it. You'd definitely wouldn't see it in formal writing, but informally it's not uncommon. A quirk of cross-cultural transmission maybe?
  - colechristensen 5y ago
    I think it's more often subtle morality/superiority signaling by calling an entity by a different name. Think Republicans referring to the "Democrat party" instead of the "Democratic" or people using "CCP" instead of "China".
    - MrMorden 5y ago
      "China" can refer to any number of different things; "CCP" only refers to the Party.
    - sigstoat 5y ago
      …do you not make a distinction between “china” and the chinese communist party? i think even the CCP itself does.
      - colechristensen 5y ago
        China the government, people, and place are separate and which one is being referred to is basically always obvious from context. People don’t do this naming a political organization instead of country name for government actions for anywhere else in the world
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      If I use CCP instead of China it's not to signal morality/superiority myself, it's to fend off people that are going to get all fussy and misinterpret and declare themselves moral/superior.
      - colechristensen 5y ago
        Sometimes accepting the premise of people you're trying to disagree with ends up reinforcing their position.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        I'm okay accepting the premise that 'China' is ambiguous sometimes.
- CoastalCoder 5y ago
  I grew up in the US in the 1970s and 1980s. We usually used the term "USSR", but I think most of us recognized "CCCP" as the Russian equivalent.
  - mixmastamyk 5y ago
    Yes, believe it was on their jackets at the Olympics. That’s where I learned it.
    - toyg 5y ago
      Folklore: in Italy, at the time the USSR was a real football power (Euro finalist etc), CCCP was often used for kids jokes as meaning "Col Cazzo Che Perdiamo" ("we ain't fucking losing").
  - rg111 5y ago
    Yes, I am very familiar with the name CCCP because of the space stuff. All their propaganda posters featuring rockets would contain those letters.
GekkePrutser 5y ago
Even here in Europe this is a thing now because they seem intent on making our money worthless with negative interest rates. As a consumer I have very little financial confidence left.
stefan_ 5y ago
Whats stopping people to exchange their money for euros or dollars? It's a popular tourist destination, after all.
- terminalcommand 5y ago
  Nothing is stopping us, in fact the dolarisation of savings hit 67% (if I'm not mistaken). People keep their savings in gold and fx. But your salary is fixed in Lira, the cost of living increases. Each month you see that you are getting poorer and poorer (and by poorer I mean 10-15% each month). It's really hard right now. If you're interested, this article on economist covers the situation: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/erdogans-zany-monetary-experiment-is-impoverishing-turkey/21806459 https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/erdogans-zan... (There is a paywall, you can read it from google cache).

eterm 5y ago

It's very odd to write CCCP in an otherwise english paragraph in latin alphabet. YOu would be better understood to write USSR or better just write Soviet Union. (For those unfamiliar, CCCP is SSSR in cyrillic alphabet).

joshgachnang 5y ago
Ah thank you! I was thinking China but that's CCP. I was wondering if I was missing something from history.
harpiaharpyja 5y ago
If you stop to think about it yes it is pretty odd, but enough people do this that I don't have to think twice when I see it. You'd definitely wouldn't see it in formal writing, but informally it's not uncommon. A quirk of cross-cultural transmission maybe?
- colechristensen 5y ago
  I think it's more often subtle morality/superiority signaling by calling an entity by a different name. Think Republicans referring to the "Democrat party" instead of the "Democratic" or people using "CCP" instead of "China".
  - MrMorden 5y ago
    "China" can refer to any number of different things; "CCP" only refers to the Party.
  - sigstoat 5y ago
    …do you not make a distinction between “china” and the chinese communist party? i think even the CCP itself does.
    - colechristensen 5y ago
      China the government, people, and place are separate and which one is being referred to is basically always obvious from context. People don’t do this naming a political organization instead of country name for government actions for anywhere else in the world
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    If I use CCP instead of China it's not to signal morality/superiority myself, it's to fend off people that are going to get all fussy and misinterpret and declare themselves moral/superior.
    - colechristensen 5y ago
      Sometimes accepting the premise of people you're trying to disagree with ends up reinforcing their position.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        I'm okay accepting the premise that 'China' is ambiguous sometimes.
CoastalCoder 5y ago
I grew up in the US in the 1970s and 1980s. We usually used the term "USSR", but I think most of us recognized "CCCP" as the Russian equivalent.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  Yes, believe it was on their jackets at the Olympics. That’s where I learned it.
  - toyg 5y ago
    Folklore: in Italy, at the time the USSR was a real football power (Euro finalist etc), CCCP was often used for kids jokes as meaning "Col Cazzo Che Perdiamo" ("we ain't fucking losing").
- rg111 5y ago
  Yes, I am very familiar with the name CCCP because of the space stuff. All their propaganda posters featuring rockets would contain those letters.

GekkePrutser 5y ago

Even here in Europe this is a thing now because they seem intent on making our money worthless with negative interest rates. As a consumer I have very little financial confidence left.

stefan_ 5y ago

Whats stopping people to exchange their money for euros or dollars? It's a popular tourist destination, after all.

terminalcommand 5y ago
Nothing is stopping us, in fact the dolarisation of savings hit 67% (if I'm not mistaken). People keep their savings in gold and fx. But your salary is fixed in Lira, the cost of living increases. Each month you see that you are getting poorer and poorer (and by poorer I mean 10-15% each month). It's really hard right now. If you're interested, this article on economist covers the situation: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/erdogans-zany-monetary-experiment-is-impoverishing-turkey/21806459 https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/erdogans-zan... (There is a paywall, you can read it from google cache).