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Like the common cold or the flu, odds are the coronavirus will be with us forever in some form or another. It is unrealistic to create a vaccine for every vari

Like the common cold or the flu, odds are the coronavirus will be with us forever in some form or another. It is unrealistic to create a vaccine for every variant. We should learn how to treat, and allow natural immunity to take over. Take the 0.07% (correction) chance of death. Edit: Stupid math error.

h0l0cube 5y ago
> 0.007% chance of death Not sure if you're being hyperbolic, but the death toll just in the US has surpassed 0.23%
- tamaharbor 5y ago
  Sorry, misplaced decimal point… World covid deaths = 5.7 million World population = 7.9 billion Death toll = 0.07%, rounded up
  - DebtDeflation 5y ago
    Not everyone in the world has had COVID, so you’re using the wrong denominator.
    - h0l0cube 5y ago
      Also add to that discrepancies between excess deaths and covid death numbers in places like India, which appears to have a difference of about 7-10x the official covid death count https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460.amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-ind...
koheripbal 5y ago
It's very reasonable to give people yearly updated shots. There are big overlaps in the variants so we wouldn't need one for each variant, not to mention you could combine multiple variants in one shot. Also, your case mortality rate number seems wrong, by orders of magnitude.
kccoder 5y ago
The case => death rate is much higher worldwide (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality). Even if you assume that every human on the face of the planet has had COVID and the death counts are perfectly accurate you arrive at a rate of 5.5M dead / 7.8B cases = 0.07%, ten times the rate you stated. But of course not every human has contracted COVID, largely thanks to people taking preventative measures like social distancing, mask wearing and vaccination. The path you suggest would likely lead to the preventable death of many million more people.
- chii 5y ago
  > The path you suggest would likely lead to the preventable death of many million more people. people who suggest that we should "let natural immunity work" are implicitly imagining that they themselves are going to be OK, and would rather have their freedom and activities restored at the cost of lives. Other people dying is "a sacrifice i'm willing to make".
OnlyLys 5y ago
Isn't updating the vaccine on a yearly basis something that's already being done for the flu vaccines? > because flu viruses are constantly changing, the composition of flu vaccines is reviewed annually, and vaccines are updated to protect against the viruses that research indicates will be most common during the upcoming flu season. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm

h0l0cube 5y ago

> 0.007% chance of death Not sure if you're being hyperbolic, but the death toll just in the US has surpassed 0.23%

tamaharbor 5y ago
Sorry, misplaced decimal point… World covid deaths = 5.7 million World population = 7.9 billion Death toll = 0.07%, rounded up
- DebtDeflation 5y ago
  Not everyone in the world has had COVID, so you’re using the wrong denominator.
  - h0l0cube 5y ago
    Also add to that discrepancies between excess deaths and covid death numbers in places like India, which appears to have a difference of about 7-10x the official covid death count https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460.amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-ind...

koheripbal 5y ago

It's very reasonable to give people yearly updated shots. There are big overlaps in the variants so we wouldn't need one for each variant, not to mention you could combine multiple variants in one shot. Also, your case mortality rate number seems wrong, by orders of magnitude.

kccoder 5y ago

The case => death rate is much higher worldwide (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality). Even if you assume that every human on the face of the planet has had COVID and the death counts are perfectly accurate you arrive at a rate of 5.5M dead / 7.8B cases = 0.07%, ten times the rate you stated. But of course not every human has contracted COVID, largely thanks to people taking preventative measures like social distancing, mask wearing and vaccination. The path you suggest would likely lead to the preventable death of many million more people.

chii 5y ago
> The path you suggest would likely lead to the preventable death of many million more people. people who suggest that we should "let natural immunity work" are implicitly imagining that they themselves are going to be OK, and would rather have their freedom and activities restored at the cost of lives. Other people dying is "a sacrifice i'm willing to make".

OnlyLys 5y ago

Isn't updating the vaccine on a yearly basis something that's already being done for the flu vaccines? > because flu viruses are constantly changing, the composition of flu vaccines is reviewed annually, and vaccines are updated to protect against the viruses that research indicates will be most common during the upcoming flu season. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/keyfacts.htm