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Here in Mexico the gov issued vaccination certificates always have errors. People have resorted to downloading the PDF and "hacking it" (editing it in Acrobat)

by pier25 5y ago

Here in Mexico the gov issued vaccination certificates always have errors. People have resorted to downloading the PDF and "hacking it" (editing it in Acrobat). Nobody ever actually checks whether the certificate is valid or not.

galaxyLogic 5y ago
I think most people who are smart enough to fake the certificate are smart enough to get vaccinated. What do you win by using a fake certificate vs. getting protected by the vaccine?
- golemiprague 5y ago
  I know many educated and smart people who are anti vaccine, including doctors, some of them got fake certificates and that is in a modern western country. Nobody is checking it properly, they just see the green colour and let you in, nobody even compare the name to some ID. So the benefit is to get into places they couldn't get into without the vaccine.
- pawelmurias 5y ago
  You can sell fake ones to retards who are scared of the vaccine. Some might be stupid enough to pay good money for it.
  - artursapek 5y ago
    This is disrespectful to the countless people who have suffered injuries and death from the covid vaccine.
    - roca 5y ago
      Please don't bring your antivaxxer lies here. The documented rates of injury/death caused by the major vaccines are incredibly low.
- pier25 5y ago
  You're missing the point. They got vaccinated but the certificate has errors.
- 2fast4you 5y ago
  Unfortunately, you’d be surprised. I know of at least one
  - freeflight 5y ago
    I know dozens of people working in the healthcare sector skeptical of covid vaccines, among them virologists specialized in RNA viruses. Their skepticism is far more nuanced, and evidence based, than the "All vaccines are poison/bill gates gonna 5G us!" covid vaccine skepticism is usually framed as. They do not oppose any other common sense measures, like mask wearing, they simply want to be careful about vaccines that have been pushed to markets in record times on very questionable, mostly political, narratives. Like vaccines allegedly saving us with "heard immunity" when most people familiar with the topic knew very well how that was extremely unlikely to happen.
    - galaxyLogic 5y ago
      From the link below we see evidence that the chance of dying from Covid-19 is multiple times bigger for the unvaccinated than for the vaccinated. I wonder what kind of "smart" person ignores this evidence and puts their life at risk at will? Hey my chance of dying from Covid is 10 times bigger because I don't get vaccinated, but I won't because I believe an even worse fate awaits me if I do. What do they think that worse fate is? About the vaccine not giving us herd-immunity, of course it doesn't if the herd refuses to get vaccinated. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-co...
      - Markoff 5y ago
        these calculations always include risk groups, without them it would make look vaccine much less appealing odds of dying from COVID for vaxxed non risk groups are pretty much same as for vaxxed non risk group, 10 times zero is still a zero nobody is denying vaccine is helping the risk groups, but there is hardly any benefit for people not at risk (healthy weight, no chronic disease)
- kingcharles 5y ago
  I don't think parent was promoting the use of fake certificates to bypass the need to get vaccinated. They were pointing out that even for vaccinated persons the certificate system was broken, and those folks were resorting to "fake" certificates just to get around.
  - galaxyLogic 5y ago
    I got that. I'm just saying I don't really get people who pay hundreds of dollars for fake vaccination certificate, when the other option of getting vaccinated: 1. Gives you the real certificate 2. FOR FREE, 3. With no chance of getting charged with forgery. 4. Gets you vaccinated which will protect you against death and serious illness. I think the choice is a "no-brainer"
    - kingcharles 5y ago
      Amen to that.
- swiley 5y ago
  More likely smart enough not to.
- joelbondurant 5y ago
  Imagine being numerically incompetent enough to fear the common cold and lust for communist tyranny.
- Perenti 5y ago
  Our greyhound has a certificate now...

by pier25 5y ago

galaxyLogic 5y ago

I think most people who are smart enough to fake the certificate are smart enough to get vaccinated. What do you win by using a fake certificate vs. getting protected by the vaccine?

golemiprague 5y ago
I know many educated and smart people who are anti vaccine, including doctors, some of them got fake certificates and that is in a modern western country. Nobody is checking it properly, they just see the green colour and let you in, nobody even compare the name to some ID. So the benefit is to get into places they couldn't get into without the vaccine.
pawelmurias 5y ago
You can sell fake ones to retards who are scared of the vaccine. Some might be stupid enough to pay good money for it.
- artursapek 5y ago
  This is disrespectful to the countless people who have suffered injuries and death from the covid vaccine.
  - roca 5y ago
    Please don't bring your antivaxxer lies here. The documented rates of injury/death caused by the major vaccines are incredibly low.
pier25 5y ago
You're missing the point. They got vaccinated but the certificate has errors.
2fast4you 5y ago
Unfortunately, you’d be surprised. I know of at least one
- freeflight 5y ago
  I know dozens of people working in the healthcare sector skeptical of covid vaccines, among them virologists specialized in RNA viruses. Their skepticism is far more nuanced, and evidence based, than the "All vaccines are poison/bill gates gonna 5G us!" covid vaccine skepticism is usually framed as. They do not oppose any other common sense measures, like mask wearing, they simply want to be careful about vaccines that have been pushed to markets in record times on very questionable, mostly political, narratives. Like vaccines allegedly saving us with "heard immunity" when most people familiar with the topic knew very well how that was extremely unlikely to happen.
  - galaxyLogic 5y ago
    From the link below we see evidence that the chance of dying from Covid-19 is multiple times bigger for the unvaccinated than for the vaccinated. I wonder what kind of "smart" person ignores this evidence and puts their life at risk at will? Hey my chance of dying from Covid is 10 times bigger because I don't get vaccinated, but I won't because I believe an even worse fate awaits me if I do. What do they think that worse fate is? About the vaccine not giving us herd-immunity, of course it doesn't if the herd refuses to get vaccinated. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-co...
    - Markoff 5y ago
      these calculations always include risk groups, without them it would make look vaccine much less appealing odds of dying from COVID for vaxxed non risk groups are pretty much same as for vaxxed non risk group, 10 times zero is still a zero nobody is denying vaccine is helping the risk groups, but there is hardly any benefit for people not at risk (healthy weight, no chronic disease)
kingcharles 5y ago
I don't think parent was promoting the use of fake certificates to bypass the need to get vaccinated. They were pointing out that even for vaccinated persons the certificate system was broken, and those folks were resorting to "fake" certificates just to get around.
- galaxyLogic 5y ago
  I got that. I'm just saying I don't really get people who pay hundreds of dollars for fake vaccination certificate, when the other option of getting vaccinated: 1. Gives you the real certificate 2. FOR FREE, 3. With no chance of getting charged with forgery. 4. Gets you vaccinated which will protect you against death and serious illness. I think the choice is a "no-brainer"
  - kingcharles 5y ago
    Amen to that.
swiley 5y ago
More likely smart enough not to.
joelbondurant 5y ago
Imagine being numerically incompetent enough to fear the common cold and lust for communist tyranny.
Perenti 5y ago
Our greyhound has a certificate now...