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> Belgium's first case of new COVID variant is a young, unvaccinated woman who returned from Egypt on Nov. 11 and developed symptoms 11 days later - RTBF How i

> Belgium's first case of new COVID variant is a young, unvaccinated woman who returned from Egypt on Nov. 11 and developed symptoms 11 days later - RTBF How is Belgium/Europe letting unvaccinated people in? I had to be double vaxxed and negative RT PCR within 6 hours of travel to go to Canada or back to India. Being double vaxxed is an entry requirement for almost all the countries right now.

meiuqer 5y ago
It states that she returns to Belgium. Implying that it is a resident from Belgium I guess?
helge9210 5y ago
Why not, if she is a citizen or permanent resident?
refurb 5y ago
Citizens are typically admitted regardless. In Canada you will be admitted if unvaccinated, you’ll just need to quarantine.
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johnchristopher 5y ago
At the moment you have to fill a PLF (passenger locator form) at arrival so you can be tracked and people you met contacted in case you develop covid symptoms. Considering Belgium specifically https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/travels/ https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/travels/: Check which COVID certificate you have at www.covidsafe.be. In principle, you have applied for this before you left. There are three types of certificates: A vaccination certificate proves that you have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. You are fully vaccinated 2 weeks after your last vaccination dose and if the vaccine is EMA-certified or Covishield. From 1 September, vaccination certificates from non-EU countries will also be accepted in Belgium under certain conditions, pending their equivalence agreement with the EU. A recovery certificate shows that you have recovered from COVID-19. You have a positive PCR test result no older than 180 days and you no longer need to isolate. A test certificate is proof of a negative COVID-19 PCR test result that is less than 72 hours old or RAT test result that is taken the day before or the day of arrival. So she was allowed to leave, catch covid abroad and get back. I know. I was also surprised (ENRAGED) to realize that our sanitary pass allow(ed) vaccinated people to attend mass events or restaurants or places where that pass is mandatory even if they have covid symptoms or are under quarantine. Apparently US citizens undergo a mandatory tests at arrival and must be fully vaccinated. From: https://unitedstates.diplomatie.belgium.be/en/coronavirus-covid-19 https://unitedstates.diplomatie.belgium.be/en/coronavirus-co... As of November 8, 2021, all fully vaccinated persons are able to travel from Belgium to the U.S. The details on the proof of vaccination and the pre-departure COVID-test are explained on the website of the U.S. Department of State. U.S. residents are eligible to travel from the U.S. to Belgium, if they are fully vaccinated and have a valid vaccination certificate. We recommend you take all available proof of vaccination with you when traveling, both the CDC card and – when available – State-issued certificates. Please note that airlines decide under which conditions they carry passengers. We recommend you enquire about those conditions before booking your flight. Upon arrival in Belgium, travelers undergo a mandatory test on day 1 and on day 7. Depending on your vaccination status, you should stay in quarantine for 2 or 10 days. Unvaccinated travelers can only travel in very exceptional circumstances, listed here. Belgium is highly dnse and there are a lot of people moving in and out of the country. Short term, I think we are fucked and I am beginning to wonder if/how I should plan to isolate for the next three months. Only recently did the headlines went from "there a no scientific evidences for a third dose" to "WE NEED EVERYONE TO GET A THIRD DOSE ASAP".
- impostergc 5y ago
  The absolute hysteria is astounding. Isolate for 3 months? Unless you are in at risk group you really should get on with your life.
  - vultour 5y ago
    There's a new variant of a deadly virus where vaccine effectiveness isn't confirmed, but hey, get on with your life, worst case you just die.
    - impostergc 5y ago
      A deadly virus where the average age of death is higher than the average developed world life expectancy.
    - dekhn 5y ago
      Really, folks have to start confronting reality here: the vast majority of people are simply not at risk, and treating this like an ongoing emergency is having some serious side effects that exceed the underlying disease.
      - vultour 5y ago
        You do you, I have friends working in the ICU who see young people die daily. Having my groceries delivered instead of having to stroll through the shop really doesn't affect me.
        impostergc 5y ago
        Acting like that's the only possible thing different about Covid restrictions just makes your position all the more comical.
        dekhn 5y ago
        Almost no young people die of Covid.
odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
I had to travel for work around europe. Some countries (norway for example) are very strict, I had border police/military (not sure what they were, but armed to the teeth) checking everything, and others, just seem like they dont care (I had a trip last week where to Denmark,and then back and I didn't show anyone at all my normal passport or covid passport. Just showed ticket and all was good). So yeah, this shit will never end until countries that aren't dependent on tourism actually start to care about it.
throwaway4good 5y ago
In general you can travel in and out of Europe (as a resident) by showing a documentation of vaccination or a clean test. I would guess she did a test in Egypt on return that was negative. The first case in HK only showed up on fourth PCR test on a fully vaccinated individual in mandatory quarantine.

meiuqer 5y ago

It states that she returns to Belgium. Implying that it is a resident from Belgium I guess?

helge9210 5y ago

Why not, if she is a citizen or permanent resident?

refurb 5y ago

Citizens are typically admitted regardless. In Canada you will be admitted if unvaccinated, you’ll just need to quarantine.

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johnchristopher 5y ago

At the moment you have to fill a PLF (passenger locator form) at arrival so you can be tracked and people you met contacted in case you develop covid symptoms. Considering Belgium specifically https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/travels/ https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/travels/: Check which COVID certificate you have at www.covidsafe.be. In principle, you have applied for this before you left. There are three types of certificates: A vaccination certificate proves that you have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. You are fully vaccinated 2 weeks after your last vaccination dose and if the vaccine is EMA-certified or Covishield. From 1 September, vaccination certificates from non-EU countries will also be accepted in Belgium under certain conditions, pending their equivalence agreement with the EU. A recovery certificate shows that you have recovered from COVID-19. You have a positive PCR test result no older than 180 days and you no longer need to isolate. A test certificate is proof of a negative COVID-19 PCR test result that is less than 72 hours old or RAT test result that is taken the day before or the day of arrival. So she was allowed to leave, catch covid abroad and get back. I know. I was also surprised (ENRAGED) to realize that our sanitary pass allow(ed) vaccinated people to attend mass events or restaurants or places where that pass is mandatory even if they have covid symptoms or are under quarantine. Apparently US citizens undergo a mandatory tests at arrival and must be fully vaccinated. From: https://unitedstates.diplomatie.belgium.be/en/coronavirus-covid-19 https://unitedstates.diplomatie.belgium.be/en/coronavirus-co... As of November 8, 2021, all fully vaccinated persons are able to travel from Belgium to the U.S. The details on the proof of vaccination and the pre-departure COVID-test are explained on the website of the U.S. Department of State. U.S. residents are eligible to travel from the U.S. to Belgium, if they are fully vaccinated and have a valid vaccination certificate. We recommend you take all available proof of vaccination with you when traveling, both the CDC card and – when available – State-issued certificates. Please note that airlines decide under which conditions they carry passengers. We recommend you enquire about those conditions before booking your flight. Upon arrival in Belgium, travelers undergo a mandatory test on day 1 and on day 7. Depending on your vaccination status, you should stay in quarantine for 2 or 10 days. Unvaccinated travelers can only travel in very exceptional circumstances, listed here. Belgium is highly dnse and there are a lot of people moving in and out of the country. Short term, I think we are fucked and I am beginning to wonder if/how I should plan to isolate for the next three months. Only recently did the headlines went from "there a no scientific evidences for a third dose" to "WE NEED EVERYONE TO GET A THIRD DOSE ASAP".

impostergc 5y ago
The absolute hysteria is astounding. Isolate for 3 months? Unless you are in at risk group you really should get on with your life.
- vultour 5y ago
  There's a new variant of a deadly virus where vaccine effectiveness isn't confirmed, but hey, get on with your life, worst case you just die.
  - impostergc 5y ago
    A deadly virus where the average age of death is higher than the average developed world life expectancy.
  - dekhn 5y ago
    Really, folks have to start confronting reality here: the vast majority of people are simply not at risk, and treating this like an ongoing emergency is having some serious side effects that exceed the underlying disease.
    - vultour 5y ago
      You do you, I have friends working in the ICU who see young people die daily. Having my groceries delivered instead of having to stroll through the shop really doesn't affect me.
      - impostergc 5y ago
        Acting like that's the only possible thing different about Covid restrictions just makes your position all the more comical.
      - dekhn 5y ago
        Almost no young people die of Covid.

odshoifsdhfs 5y ago

I had to travel for work around europe. Some countries (norway for example) are very strict, I had border police/military (not sure what they were, but armed to the teeth) checking everything, and others, just seem like they dont care (I had a trip last week where to Denmark,and then back and I didn't show anyone at all my normal passport or covid passport. Just showed ticket and all was good). So yeah, this shit will never end until countries that aren't dependent on tourism actually start to care about it.

throwaway4good 5y ago

In general you can travel in and out of Europe (as a resident) by showing a documentation of vaccination or a clean test. I would guess she did a test in Egypt on return that was negative. The first case in HK only showed up on fourth PCR test on a fully vaccinated individual in mandatory quarantine.