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There is no way to do this in democratic way, French citizens already voted against it in 2005. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_European_Constitut
by tasogare 5y ago
There is no way to do this in democratic way, French citizens already voted against it in 2005.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_European_Constitution_referendum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_European_Constit...
- Dma54rhs 5y agoNo way its happening, so many countries have gained their independence recently in EU and are already fed up with the current format of union itself.
- nixass 5y agoThose "recently independent" countries are fecked without EU, so they better jump on the train or be consumed by eastern threats
- inglor_cz 5y agoAs far as physical security goes, the eastern members rely on NATO, which in practice means the USA. All the threatened countries (Baltics, Poland, Romania) rely on American deterrence as a last resort. Within the EU, the German army is in no condition to fight, the British is, but UK left the club, and France is entangled in Africa.
- nradov 5y agoTo give some sense of how useless the German military is, a few years ago they didn't even have guns so they had to carry broomsticks and about shout "bang!". https://www.newsweek.com/germany-cant-explain-use-broomstick-instead-guns-nato-exercise-307902 https://www.newsweek.com/germany-cant-explain-use-broomstick... At another point literally all of their submarines were broken. They couldn't send even a single one into combat. https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/10/20/all-of-germanys-submarines-are-currently-down/ https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/10/20/all-of-germanys...
- Kim_Bruning 5y agoThat was a rather flawed EU constitution document, not an attempt at federation. One could still have a federation with a sane constitution. (not saying one should, but it's entirely plausible)