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Panasonic OLEDs are the same price as LG but they show no ads whatsoever, don’t have gimmicky menus, and turn on in 5 seconds flat.

dkdbejwi383 5y ago
They moved to Android since 2020.
- adanto6840 5y ago
  Shouldn’t have to do this at all, obviously, but at least if it’s android then you’re just a few commands away from removing most anything. Used it to rid my Sony of all the annoyances and the continual “enable samba?” Prompts that kept coming up despite always choosing “disable” explicitly. Google for “adb remove ads <model/brand>” or similar. 20 minutes helped my wife not be annoyed at popovers on the TV, and saved me countless time looking for the OEM remote. :D
  - gonehome 5y ago
    I’ve found the android based TVs to be awful. Their boot up time is slow and they often seem to have trouble starting via the Apple TV remote.
_puk 5y ago
Haha, I find the recommendation for Panasonic for an ad free experience quite ironic. They were the first to go there circa 2013: boot screen, home screen and volume ads. But, they got a lot of backlash, and I doubt it was as lucrative as expected, so it appears they removed them in more recent years.
- ornornor 5y ago
  Maybe the OLED displays are in a different class in their lineup. I only ever owned this one Panasonic OLED from 2018.
  - Narretz 5y ago
    Then you shouldn't make a general recommendation for all Panasonic OLED TVs.
    - eklavya 5y ago
      We all have bad days but perhaps you should read the comment again and try and be a bit less confrontational?
elabajaba 5y ago
Panasonic got out of the NA TV market a few years ago, and no warranty+exorbitant shipping costs means it isn't worth buying one in Europe and having it shipped. They're also ending their inhouse TV production and outsourcing it for 2022, which probably means they're going to get worse.
vbphprubyjsgo 5y ago
I have a 15" LCD from 1998 and it turns on in a few hundred ms. 2010s+ LCDs take about 5-10 seconds which is insanely slow (even for a casual user, in which case it causes more confusion when plugging cables in because he's likely to assume the cables are wrong and disconnect them because the screen didn't react right away). TVs take as long or worse because they are simply more poorly designed. 5 seconds is literally longer than it takes for a CRT to turn on and have a viewable picture. The general quality of hardware can be gleaned as the inverse of how much software is in it. As for vendor fetishizing: All monitor/TV vendors are terrible.

dkdbejwi383 5y ago

They moved to Android since 2020.

adanto6840 5y ago
Shouldn’t have to do this at all, obviously, but at least if it’s android then you’re just a few commands away from removing most anything. Used it to rid my Sony of all the annoyances and the continual “enable samba?” Prompts that kept coming up despite always choosing “disable” explicitly. Google for “adb remove ads <model/brand>” or similar. 20 minutes helped my wife not be annoyed at popovers on the TV, and saved me countless time looking for the OEM remote. :D
- gonehome 5y ago
  I’ve found the android based TVs to be awful. Their boot up time is slow and they often seem to have trouble starting via the Apple TV remote.

_puk 5y ago

Haha, I find the recommendation for Panasonic for an ad free experience quite ironic. They were the first to go there circa 2013: boot screen, home screen and volume ads. But, they got a lot of backlash, and I doubt it was as lucrative as expected, so it appears they removed them in more recent years.

ornornor 5y ago
Maybe the OLED displays are in a different class in their lineup. I only ever owned this one Panasonic OLED from 2018.
- Narretz 5y ago
  Then you shouldn't make a general recommendation for all Panasonic OLED TVs.
  - eklavya 5y ago
    We all have bad days but perhaps you should read the comment again and try and be a bit less confrontational?

elabajaba 5y ago

Panasonic got out of the NA TV market a few years ago, and no warranty+exorbitant shipping costs means it isn't worth buying one in Europe and having it shipped. They're also ending their inhouse TV production and outsourcing it for 2022, which probably means they're going to get worse.

vbphprubyjsgo 5y ago

I have a 15" LCD from 1998 and it turns on in a few hundred ms. 2010s+ LCDs take about 5-10 seconds which is insanely slow (even for a casual user, in which case it causes more confusion when plugging cables in because he's likely to assume the cables are wrong and disconnect them because the screen didn't react right away). TVs take as long or worse because they are simply more poorly designed. 5 seconds is literally longer than it takes for a CRT to turn on and have a viewable picture. The general quality of hardware can be gleaned as the inverse of how much software is in it. As for vendor fetishizing: All monitor/TV vendors are terrible.