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Off topic but are expat and immigrant the same concept?

by gerash 5y ago

windock 5y ago
Expat is a Western immigrant in non-Western country
rosndo 5y ago
Expats are white immigrants. Not sure why kranke155 got flagged for saying this, it’s the truth.
MaurizioPz 5y ago
From what I understand (not native speaker) yes but from different points of view. You are an expat out of a country. You are an immigrant into a country. So usually you are both.
- seanmcdirmid 5y ago
  You are confusing expat with emigrant.
inawarminister 5y ago
expat has the implications that you're only there for a while and will return home. The true concept for immigration would be emigrant (emigres) but this doesn't seem to have popular English usage nowadays.
kranke155 5y ago
Expat is when you’re white and wealthy. Black and brown people are immigrants
- aliswe 5y ago
  tbh this isnt dubai terminology. all professionals call themselves expats.
seanmcdirmid 5y ago
We would describe people by their packages: 1. Sent by company to work in another country with a full package: expat 2. Decided to work in another country doing white collar skilled or semi-skilled labor without a package but with no intention of (or ability to) staying: half pat 3. Poorer version of 2 doing less skilled or unskilled labor: migrant worker (not a lot of difference, actually) 4. Working in a foreign country on an actual visa that leads to at least permanent residency: immigrant Note that China (where I was) doesn't really allow for 4, but there are definitely people who move there with the intention of staying (though their chance of ever getting a green card is very slim if they are not Han or a famous basketball star). I was in the 2 bucket, had a few lucky friends in the 1 bucket. The 3rd bucket was handled by migrant workers from out of province/city (so not technically migrant workers like we have in the states, but without residency via the hukou system they are exploited roughly the same). Incidentally, the engineers China sends to Africa and south east Asia and other countries are definitely expats (though their packages aren't that big), the workers they send to do construction in the same areas are more like migrant workers. So it is not just a distinction made for westerners.

Off topic but are expat and immigrant the same concept?

by gerash 5y ago

Off topic but are expat and immigrant the same concept?

windock 5y ago

Expat is a Western immigrant in non-Western country

rosndo 5y ago

Expats are white immigrants. Not sure why kranke155 got flagged for saying this, it’s the truth.

MaurizioPz 5y ago

From what I understand (not native speaker) yes but from different points of view. You are an expat out of a country. You are an immigrant into a country. So usually you are both.

seanmcdirmid 5y ago
You are confusing expat with emigrant.

inawarminister 5y ago

expat has the implications that you're only there for a while and will return home. The true concept for immigration would be emigrant (emigres) but this doesn't seem to have popular English usage nowadays.

kranke155 5y ago

Expat is when you’re white and wealthy. Black and brown people are immigrants

aliswe 5y ago
tbh this isnt dubai terminology. all professionals call themselves expats.

seanmcdirmid 5y ago

We would describe people by their packages: 1. Sent by company to work in another country with a full package: expat 2. Decided to work in another country doing white collar skilled or semi-skilled labor without a package but with no intention of (or ability to) staying: half pat 3. Poorer version of 2 doing less skilled or unskilled labor: migrant worker (not a lot of difference, actually) 4. Working in a foreign country on an actual visa that leads to at least permanent residency: immigrant Note that China (where I was) doesn't really allow for 4, but there are definitely people who move there with the intention of staying (though their chance of ever getting a green card is very slim if they are not Han or a famous basketball star). I was in the 2 bucket, had a few lucky friends in the 1 bucket. The 3rd bucket was handled by migrant workers from out of province/city (so not technically migrant workers like we have in the states, but without residency via the hukou system they are exploited roughly the same). Incidentally, the engineers China sends to Africa and south east Asia and other countries are definitely expats (though their packages aren't that big), the workers they send to do construction in the same areas are more like migrant workers. So it is not just a distinction made for westerners.