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Grade nine is 14-15 years of age in the US. I agree with you WRT age appropriate-ness. Just because something can or has been introduced at a certain age does
by 542458 5y ago
Grade nine is 14-15 years of age in the US.
I agree with you WRT age appropriate-ness. Just because something can or has been introduced at a certain age does not mean that is optimal. I recall a study I saw recently that showed delaying introducing one subject - it may have been math - to very young students had negligible impacts on their scores (compared to students who were introduced earlier) a few years later. The students with a delayed introduction caught up so quickly that the delay didn’t matter. I’ll see if I can dig up a link - EDIT, I’m struggling to find it under all of the COVID-related student-delay-catch-up articles.
- CameronNemo 5y agoI would be curious to know about long term retention rather than performance in a class or on a test.
- nemothekid 5y agoWouldn't that make Grade 12 18 ~ 19 years of age? Has the school age been moved up a year? I vaguely remember the oldest kids in high school being 18.
- psutor 5y agoDon't know if parent has been edited to correct something, but: 9: 14-15 10: 15-16 11: 16-17 12: 17-18
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- nemothekid 5y agoAh that's right. I should have just written in out rather than just adding 4.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoAt the end of your freshmen year, you have 3 years until the send of your senior year. See, Algebra is useful for something.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoIf you turn 15 in 9th grade, you will turn 18 in 12th grade.
- bko 5y ago> The students with a delayed introduction caught up so quickly that the delay didn’t matter Yes and there are some kids that act up or learn to hate education and the system for being forced into what amounts to remedial classes. Sometimes the brightest children are the most difficult precisely because they're not being challenged. The ideal would be to have every student learn at their own pace. Some children could comprehend algebra in 8th grade, others may never fully comprehend it. Obviously that's impossible at scale. So the best we can do is to separate kids based on ability and interest. Some children can grasp more advanced concepts at an earlier age, while others struggle. That's why generally in schools we have standard classes, special education and gifted classes. The best schools separate it even further offering additional lessons or tutoring to children that are especially curious or require more work. Everyone benefits. This is common sense. There's no such thing as "appropriate topics" for an age. It's all child specific.
- 542458 5y agoGifted programs do very little or nothing as far as most studies can tell. Any gains in scores are very small, and they don’t appear to make any meaningful difference in student engagement or motivation. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3102/01623737211008919 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3102/01623737211008919 https://www.nber.org/papers/w17089 https://www.nber.org/papers/w17089 These programs are relatively expensive, and there’s a strong argument the gifted programs should be overhauled, or that the money could be better spent elsewhere.
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- readams 5y agoGifted programs aren't the same thing as tracking kids into more advanced math classes. A gifted program is where you take some kids aside and teach them some random extra stuff, at the end of the day they're still in the regular classes with the other kids also and don't really have a chance to go any faster.