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Vaccinated people spread to the rest of the population as well. Don't know why you think vaccination prevents people from spreading COVID-19.

listless 5y ago
Exactly this. I am double vaxxed Moderna and got it. I was bad sick, but not as bad as my unvaxxed friends who got it. But I’m sure I spread that sucker all over the place. And by the way, the mask made no difference In my case. I’m convinced it’s a fresh N95 everyday or you’re wasting your time.
- roywiggins 5y ago
  The vaccine is still good at preventing you from catching it at all. If you don't catch it you don't spread it. It's more like 50% effective than 99%, but it's still going to reduce the chance you give it to anyone substantially.
  - verdverm 5y ago
    Vaccinated, asymptomatic can still spread the disease, though at reduced rates.
- pengaru 5y ago
  > the mask made no difference In my case How can you possibly know such a thing? The mask is more about reducing your spread to others, do you have reliable data on how many people you would have infected in lieu of masking? No, you don't.
  - listless 5y ago
    All I know is I wore one and so did all my friends and it cut through all of us like a knife through butter. Nobody was spared. People think masks are going to save them. In my experience, they prevented nothing of consequence to me or the people I interact with.
    - pengaru 5y ago
      Most of what it does is affect the probability of your spreading it to others, and it doesn't reduce that down to zero. So it's unrealistic to expect masking to prevent your spreading it to close friends/family whom you're in frequent contact with. But it lowers how much you're emitting past the mask while standing in line at the grocery store. Your take on this seems incredibly self-centered.
    - encryptluks2 5y ago
      Careful there... people are going to start calling you an antivax Nazi Trump supporter for your own personal experience.
  - chrismcb 5y ago
    Because a lot of the studies back that comment up.
poxrud 5y ago
Vaccination greatly reduces the rate of spread compared to the unvaccinated. [0] [0]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...
- vimy 5y ago
  I’m not convinced it matters that much. Regions with high vaccination rates are having corona spikes right now. In my country 92 % of adults are vaccinated and we have the highest number of cases since 2020. Gibraltar with 100 %, Ireland with 95 %, there are more countries/regions…, all having a big rise in cases and are going back into lockdown. So it doesn’t seem like the lower viral load is making much of a difference.
  - ben7799 5y ago
    Do those #s include children? The numbers here are very high (in one of the most vaccinated US states) but only if you look at the 18+ number or something similar. We still have plenty of unvaccinated kids spreading it around and they end up spreading it to some vaccinated people.
  - rsynnott 5y ago
    > Ireland with 95 % In Ireland we have, today, rates substantially lower than the peak in January. The variant prevalent in January was far less infectious, and most stuff was closed in January (there was a sort of timid partial reopening of some pubs and restaurants the previous November, which was reversed at the end of December, no events with over 50 people were allowed, everyone was still told to work from home where possible, etc). Now we have a much more infectious variant, almost everything is open (though people were advised to work from home where possible last week), and the rate is still lower. That actually looks like reasonable evidence that the vaccine _is_ somewhat effective at lowering the R number, to me. At any rate, something is clearly reducing infection; despite a much more infectious variant, and far, far more social mixing, the R number is lower than it was in January.
matwood 5y ago
If someone doesn't catch it to start, they can't spread it.

listless 5y ago

Exactly this. I am double vaxxed Moderna and got it. I was bad sick, but not as bad as my unvaxxed friends who got it. But I’m sure I spread that sucker all over the place. And by the way, the mask made no difference In my case. I’m convinced it’s a fresh N95 everyday or you’re wasting your time.

roywiggins 5y ago
The vaccine is still good at preventing you from catching it at all. If you don't catch it you don't spread it. It's more like 50% effective than 99%, but it's still going to reduce the chance you give it to anyone substantially.
- verdverm 5y ago
  Vaccinated, asymptomatic can still spread the disease, though at reduced rates.
pengaru 5y ago
> the mask made no difference In my case How can you possibly know such a thing? The mask is more about reducing your spread to others, do you have reliable data on how many people you would have infected in lieu of masking? No, you don't.
- listless 5y ago
  All I know is I wore one and so did all my friends and it cut through all of us like a knife through butter. Nobody was spared. People think masks are going to save them. In my experience, they prevented nothing of consequence to me or the people I interact with.
  - pengaru 5y ago
    Most of what it does is affect the probability of your spreading it to others, and it doesn't reduce that down to zero. So it's unrealistic to expect masking to prevent your spreading it to close friends/family whom you're in frequent contact with. But it lowers how much you're emitting past the mask while standing in line at the grocery store. Your take on this seems incredibly self-centered.
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    Careful there... people are going to start calling you an antivax Nazi Trump supporter for your own personal experience.
- chrismcb 5y ago
  Because a lot of the studies back that comment up.

poxrud 5y ago

Vaccination greatly reduces the rate of spread compared to the unvaccinated. [0] [0]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...

vimy 5y ago
I’m not convinced it matters that much. Regions with high vaccination rates are having corona spikes right now. In my country 92 % of adults are vaccinated and we have the highest number of cases since 2020. Gibraltar with 100 %, Ireland with 95 %, there are more countries/regions…, all having a big rise in cases and are going back into lockdown. So it doesn’t seem like the lower viral load is making much of a difference.
- ben7799 5y ago
  Do those #s include children? The numbers here are very high (in one of the most vaccinated US states) but only if you look at the 18+ number or something similar. We still have plenty of unvaccinated kids spreading it around and they end up spreading it to some vaccinated people.
- rsynnott 5y ago
  > Ireland with 95 % In Ireland we have, today, rates substantially lower than the peak in January. The variant prevalent in January was far less infectious, and most stuff was closed in January (there was a sort of timid partial reopening of some pubs and restaurants the previous November, which was reversed at the end of December, no events with over 50 people were allowed, everyone was still told to work from home where possible, etc). Now we have a much more infectious variant, almost everything is open (though people were advised to work from home where possible last week), and the rate is still lower. That actually looks like reasonable evidence that the vaccine _is_ somewhat effective at lowering the R number, to me. At any rate, something is clearly reducing infection; despite a much more infectious variant, and far, far more social mixing, the R number is lower than it was in January.

matwood 5y ago

If someone doesn't catch it to start, they can't spread it.