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> Sorry, what? I fail to understand your question, but can reiterate. The available good debuggers are proprietary, including the one that only runs in the pro
by solarkraft 5y ago
> Sorry, what?
I fail to understand your question, but can reiterate. The available good debuggers are proprietary, including the one that only runs in the proprietary version of VSCode. Thus you can’t really use it in another IDE - Same shit as with the original Visual Studio.
OmniSharp is an effort to replace the proprietary debugger, but lacks features in comparison.
> ... what is "Visual Studio baggage"???
Patterns and actions relying on features in Visual Studio, either softly because every guide uses them (modifying project properties, changing the startup project, installing a package) and hardly because the implementation is literally inside of Visual Studio (almost hot reload).
> If anything, .NET had a Visual Studio lock-in back in those days, but not today ...
And it wasn’t great. Having had a .NET Framework job for a while I learned to like C# and hate Visual Studio. I’m glad most tutorials now use VSCode on Macs to get as far away as possible from VS and MS-isms.
I’m not glad they’re attempting to bring that terrible Visual Studio and Windows entanglement back. Hence I agree with the forker.
> Also are we talking about .NET or "programming languages" here? Or both?
They’re so closely related it doesn’t make that much sense to discuss them separately in this case. If you want to use C#, you need .NET. Technically this is about .NET, but probably with the main intention to save C#.
- numlock86 5y agoDo you have anything to back up those claims? As someone who makes a living out of working with .NET (albeit also a lot of other things) I call BS on every point. And please, don't link some irrelevant opinionated news articles from The Verge and whatnot again (which again only consist of ranting and Twitter screenshots), as the forker/OP already did ... Like what objectively is your problem with .NET and the way it is managed by Microsoft right now? For example you claim they bring back "Windows and Visual Studio entanglement"? Like, uhm ... what? And let's imagine for a second that that (whatever you are referring to) was true: How is this fork even attempting to solve this? Ranting in issues, READMEs and on HN surely isn't going to help.