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The cruel workaround that's playing counter to this is to diminish the person's life and freedoms until they take it out of desperation, and if they still don't
by HunchedOver 5y ago
The cruel workaround that's playing counter to this is to diminish the person's life and freedoms until they take it out of desperation, and if they still don't give in; forsake the pretence of choice and mandate it anyway.
- thedream 5y agoWindows 10 all over again?
- minitoar 5y agoThe unvaccinated diminish other’s lives by being a vector. Why in your opinion are they entitled to do that?
- HunchedOver 5y agoMedical consent is their right. They have the right to say no to any medical procedure for any reason. Right there in the GP funnily enough.
- minitoar 5y agoI was not disputing that. I was disputing that it’s a “cruel workaround” to eg require that people who work with the public get a vaccination to keep their job. Those who choose not to get to vaccinated are not entitled to force their presence on private individuals and to a certain extent the public.
- HunchedOver 5y agoI'm not explaining why segregation is cruel to you.
- minitoar 5y agoIt’s really more of a quarantine.
- nradov 5y agoI encourage everyone eligible to get vaccinated, but vaccinated people are also vectors. The vaccines don't reliably prevent infection or transmission. https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-made-herd-immunity-not-possible-astrazeneca-developer-2021-8?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-made-herd-immu...
- minitoar 5y agoAs far as we know now, vaccinated people who contract covid shed less virus for a shorter period of time: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html?s_cid=11507:delta%20variant%20pfizer%20vaccine%20efficacy:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-var...
- nradov 5y agoYes but so what? Since the virus is now endemic and can't be eradicated, all of us will be exposed multiple times throughout our lives no matter what we do or how many people are vaccinated. Vaccination provides good protection against severe symptoms, but over the long run it won't prevent others from being exposed.
- minitoar 5y agoI imagine you know this, but maybe there’s some reason you think it doesn’t matter: It will lower the rate of exposure.