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Facebook tells LA police to stop spying on users with fake accounts

71 points by LordAtlas 5y ago

atkailash 5y ago
It’s only because of the fake accounts they care. If they were real people they wouldn’t give two shakes of a rat’s tail
chmod775 5y ago
Ah. So something can be both rich and reasonable at the same time! Reality never disappoints.
1cvmask 5y ago
Meanwhile they supply everything directly to the federal government.
- commoner 5y ago
  For anyone doubting this, Facebook has a dedicated page for data requests from law enforcement and government officials: https://www.facebook.com/records https://www.facebook.com/records
- rytcio 5y ago
  Facebook just wants them to go through their special channels so that they can get paid
  - trhway 5y ago
    and it would also allow FB to collect better information about those police users too who i suppose is a highly lucrative targeted advertisement segment for guns/steroids/etc and that also provides significant information about their social graph.
- bpodgursky 5y ago
  Facebook does a lot of things wrong but I doubt they give any user data to the federal government they are not coerced into providing.
  - pwned1 5y ago
    lol
  - input_sh 5y ago
    May I introduce you to PRISM? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
    - bpodgursky 5y ago
      ? Yes, being ordered and gagged by the US government is coercion. Are you familiar with the article you linked to?
      - chiefalchemist 5y ago
        I think the point being made is, via PRISM data is provided on the regular with zero coercion. That is, the bar is much lower than (your suggestion of) the need for coercion. Note: Not taking sides. Only trying to clear up the doubt.
        tata71 5y ago
        > zero coercion This is false, although it's reasonable to assume that, during the coersion, some specific people or companies do roll over out of self-interest.
        chiefalchemist 5y ago
        Friend. It's not my position or argument. I was only trying to clear up the comms disconnect.
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
      Facebook has no choice in the matter. Regardless- PRISM is run by the NSA to conduct court-approved foreign surveillance.
vmception 5y ago
It is really interesting how social graphs can be used so easily to construct likely accomplices and more I don't see any issue with this, civilians need to understand it is likely. It is comical that Facebook goes to state actors to remind them that it's against their terms of service. Suggests they don't know or care to know which accounts are fake, only that they saw the LAPD manual.
mrtweetyhack 5y ago
said the kettle
musicale 5y ago
note to bbc.com: s/with/via/
mvidal01 5y ago
The story doesn't say who's doing the surveillance but the LAPD's Intelligence departments have a long and storied/scandalous history. https://crimereads.com/the-lapds-secret-history-of-citizen-spying/ https://crimereads.com/the-lapds-secret-history-of-citizen-s...
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  Laughs in NYPD, which has an intelligence department larger than many countries. Also, many (10?) years ago Boston Police were caught snooping around with fake accounts trying to find underground/house concerts by sliding into people's DMs. The DMs were hilarious. Super /r/fellowkids, stuff like "Yo whut up what's the 411 on the zip for tomorrow night's show? I won't tell the po po." Someone posted about it on twitter and people came out of the woodwork with stories and screenshots of similar messages from a small handful of suspiciously new, sparse profiles. Given Boston has one of the worst homicide clearance rates in the nation you would think our detectives would be interested in, you know, doing something about violent crime. But this is the city where you have to be licensed to have board games at your establishment, and apparently whether a TV is smaller or larger than 27 inches is of significant concern to the city: https://www.boston.gov/sites/default/files/file/2021/06/Annual%20Non%20Live%20Entertainment%20Application%20fillable%20Kim%20Janey_0.pdf https://www.boston.gov/sites/default/files/file/2021/06/Annu...
perl4ever 5y ago
"facebook notacop"

71 points by LordAtlas 5y ago

It’s only because of the fake accounts they care. If they were real people they wouldn’t give two shakes of a rat’s tail

chmod775 5y ago

Ah. So something can be both rich and reasonable at the same time! Reality never disappoints.

1cvmask 5y ago

Meanwhile they supply everything directly to the federal government.

commoner 5y ago
For anyone doubting this, Facebook has a dedicated page for data requests from law enforcement and government officials: https://www.facebook.com/records https://www.facebook.com/records
rytcio 5y ago
Facebook just wants them to go through their special channels so that they can get paid
- trhway 5y ago
  and it would also allow FB to collect better information about those police users too who i suppose is a highly lucrative targeted advertisement segment for guns/steroids/etc and that also provides significant information about their social graph.
bpodgursky 5y ago
Facebook does a lot of things wrong but I doubt they give any user data to the federal government they are not coerced into providing.
- pwned1 5y ago
  lol
- input_sh 5y ago
  May I introduce you to PRISM? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
  - bpodgursky 5y ago
    ? Yes, being ordered and gagged by the US government is coercion. Are you familiar with the article you linked to?
    - chiefalchemist 5y ago
      I think the point being made is, via PRISM data is provided on the regular with zero coercion. That is, the bar is much lower than (your suggestion of) the need for coercion. Note: Not taking sides. Only trying to clear up the doubt.
      - tata71 5y ago
        > zero coercion This is false, although it's reasonable to assume that, during the coersion, some specific people or companies do roll over out of self-interest.
        chiefalchemist 5y ago
        Friend. It's not my position or argument. I was only trying to clear up the comms disconnect.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
    Facebook has no choice in the matter. Regardless- PRISM is run by the NSA to conduct court-approved foreign surveillance.

vmception 5y ago

It is really interesting how social graphs can be used so easily to construct likely accomplices and more I don't see any issue with this, civilians need to understand it is likely. It is comical that Facebook goes to state actors to remind them that it's against their terms of service. Suggests they don't know or care to know which accounts are fake, only that they saw the LAPD manual.

mrtweetyhack 5y ago

said the kettle

musicale 5y ago

note to bbc.com: s/with/via/

mvidal01 5y ago

The story doesn't say who's doing the surveillance but the LAPD's Intelligence departments have a long and storied/scandalous history. https://crimereads.com/the-lapds-secret-history-of-citizen-spying/ https://crimereads.com/the-lapds-secret-history-of-citizen-s...

KennyBlanken 5y ago
Laughs in NYPD, which has an intelligence department larger than many countries. Also, many (10?) years ago Boston Police were caught snooping around with fake accounts trying to find underground/house concerts by sliding into people's DMs. The DMs were hilarious. Super /r/fellowkids, stuff like "Yo whut up what's the 411 on the zip for tomorrow night's show? I won't tell the po po." Someone posted about it on twitter and people came out of the woodwork with stories and screenshots of similar messages from a small handful of suspiciously new, sparse profiles. Given Boston has one of the worst homicide clearance rates in the nation you would think our detectives would be interested in, you know, doing something about violent crime. But this is the city where you have to be licensed to have board games at your establishment, and apparently whether a TV is smaller or larger than 27 inches is of significant concern to the city: https://www.boston.gov/sites/default/files/file/2021/06/Annual%20Non%20Live%20Entertainment%20Application%20fillable%20Kim%20Janey_0.pdf https://www.boston.gov/sites/default/files/file/2021/06/Annu...

perl4ever 5y ago

"facebook notacop"