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Sunlight is the best cure for corruption. By putting registry data on the blockchain and allowing anyone to independently verify state of an immutable distribu

by lowkey 5y ago

Sunlight is the best cure for corruption. By putting registry data on the blockchain and allowing anyone to independently verify state of an immutable distributed database makes it much harder to get away with the corruption.

Daishiman 5y ago
This isn't how things work in corrupt countries.
- DennisP 5y ago
  People here keep saying I don't understand "how things work" but so far nobody has provided references, while I've provided three links in support of my claims. Could you do the same?
  - Daishiman 5y ago
    In corrupt countries the laws don't matter two shits. What matters is what gets enforced. What matters is that the right cases go to the right courts. What matters is that people who press on these things get calls told to drop it, and if they don't drop it, they find themselves in accidents that no journalist is willing to touch with a ten-foot pole. You're not going to find experiments quantifying this corruption; you'll find lived experiences and anecdotes coming from the same countries with the similar MOs. Blockchains don't solve the problem of a police captain knocking at your door telling you that if don't go through with a shitty deal your son isn't coming back from school the next day.
    - DennisP 5y ago
      Still no references then. I didn't ask for experiments; any decent journalism would suffice. You're assuming the government is a monolithic entity, either corrupt or not. The truth is that often corruption is widespread but there are people at the top trying to fix it. That's not an easy task, and it's where keeping good, unforgeable records can help. That's why several governments are in fact running pilot blockchain programs.
      - Daishiman 5y ago
        > Still no references then. I didn't ask for experiments; any decent journalism would suffice. Of course no references! Do you think even local journalists cover these things? Are you wrapped in a first-world bubble where you've never heard of local land rights being fought over? You've never met people from third-world countries willing to tell you about their fights with getting basic property rights enforces? > You're assuming the government is a monolithic entity, either corrupt or not. The truth is that often corruption is widespread but there are people at the top trying to fix it. I know enough governments officials in sufficiently high-enough places to know that there's people at the top who want to do the right thing. > That's not an easy task, and it's where keeping good, unforgeable records can help. This is where things are wrong. Where I live there's tons of illegal construction, disputed properties, and illegal sales. Recordkeeping has never been the issue; the issue is that legal disputes can take decades to settle with no particular recourse even for egregious lawbreaking.

by lowkey 5y ago

Daishiman 5y ago

This isn't how things work in corrupt countries.

DennisP 5y ago
People here keep saying I don't understand "how things work" but so far nobody has provided references, while I've provided three links in support of my claims. Could you do the same?
- Daishiman 5y ago
  In corrupt countries the laws don't matter two shits. What matters is what gets enforced. What matters is that the right cases go to the right courts. What matters is that people who press on these things get calls told to drop it, and if they don't drop it, they find themselves in accidents that no journalist is willing to touch with a ten-foot pole. You're not going to find experiments quantifying this corruption; you'll find lived experiences and anecdotes coming from the same countries with the similar MOs. Blockchains don't solve the problem of a police captain knocking at your door telling you that if don't go through with a shitty deal your son isn't coming back from school the next day.
  - DennisP 5y ago
    Still no references then. I didn't ask for experiments; any decent journalism would suffice. You're assuming the government is a monolithic entity, either corrupt or not. The truth is that often corruption is widespread but there are people at the top trying to fix it. That's not an easy task, and it's where keeping good, unforgeable records can help. That's why several governments are in fact running pilot blockchain programs.
    - Daishiman 5y ago
      > Still no references then. I didn't ask for experiments; any decent journalism would suffice. Of course no references! Do you think even local journalists cover these things? Are you wrapped in a first-world bubble where you've never heard of local land rights being fought over? You've never met people from third-world countries willing to tell you about their fights with getting basic property rights enforces? > You're assuming the government is a monolithic entity, either corrupt or not. The truth is that often corruption is widespread but there are people at the top trying to fix it. I know enough governments officials in sufficiently high-enough places to know that there's people at the top who want to do the right thing. > That's not an easy task, and it's where keeping good, unforgeable records can help. This is where things are wrong. Where I live there's tons of illegal construction, disputed properties, and illegal sales. Recordkeeping has never been the issue; the issue is that legal disputes can take decades to settle with no particular recourse even for egregious lawbreaking.