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> The difference is that it can't be done in secret. Who cares? The record is entered by a government official. That's it. The land bow belongs to whoever is w

> The difference is that it can't be done in secret. Who cares? The record is entered by a government official. That's it. The land bow belongs to whoever is written the record. Blockchain doesn't help here at all. There are also multiple other cases around land ownership that blockchain proponents don't consider because blockchain proponents en masse have no idea how reality works.

DennisP 5y ago
> it's possible that the highest level of government would like to fix the problem, but has trouble with corruption at lower levels
- dmitriid 5y ago
  Ah yes. As always with blockchains, everything depends on some nebulous "possibly someone somewhere will perhaps do something, and the only reason they are not already doing it now is because they don't have blockchain"
  - DennisP 5y ago
    It's actually not uncommon for high-level government officials to attempt to crack down on corruption at lower levels, and to have great difficulty succeeding. Blockchains are a reliable record-keeping tool that can help, much like double-entry bookkeeping helps authorities prevent other types of shenanigans. Unlike the skeptics here, I've provided reference supporting these claims. But I suppose when double-entry bookkeeping was first introduced, it faced a lot of dismissive snark as well.
    - Daishiman 5y ago
      No, the snark is that you're talking about things as is good recordkeeping is some marvelous solution to problems. Where I live the tax agency has no problem having transparent records of everything that happens. And yet tax evasion is an enormous problem. Recordkeeping is not the reason why people evade taxes and why they won't stop. Same thing with a violent police force or corrupt border police.
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      > Blockchains are a reliable record-keeping tool that can help It's a computer system where you enter records. That's it. These poor high-level government officials that can't do anything could already have implemented/procured such a system without blockchain. They haven't. But sure, they are only lacking blockchain to make this magically happen. Edit: > Unlike the skeptics here, I've provided reference supporting these claims. If you refer to pilot projects using blockchain in some countries, these are nothing but scams looking for easy grant money, don't solve the actual problems (especially not in countries with bad record keeping), and can be implemented faster and more efficiently with any other tech. As an example, this mini-thread on land registries in Afghanistan: https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1386994745218584580?s=20 https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1386994745218584580?s=20 Also this discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27212564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27212564 And this lower down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27217681 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27217681 How's that for references?
      - DennisP 5y ago
        More HN comments and a twitter thread? Eh, ok.
        dmitriid 5y ago
        I wouldn't expect a comment containing any substance form anyone shilling for crypto. Those comments have real problems that none of the blockchain "magic" can solve. And, of course, the moment actual real problems are discussed all the crypto shills just disappear into the thin air.

DennisP 5y ago

> it's possible that the highest level of government would like to fix the problem, but has trouble with corruption at lower levels

dmitriid 5y ago
Ah yes. As always with blockchains, everything depends on some nebulous "possibly someone somewhere will perhaps do something, and the only reason they are not already doing it now is because they don't have blockchain"
- DennisP 5y ago
  It's actually not uncommon for high-level government officials to attempt to crack down on corruption at lower levels, and to have great difficulty succeeding. Blockchains are a reliable record-keeping tool that can help, much like double-entry bookkeeping helps authorities prevent other types of shenanigans. Unlike the skeptics here, I've provided reference supporting these claims. But I suppose when double-entry bookkeeping was first introduced, it faced a lot of dismissive snark as well.
  - Daishiman 5y ago
    No, the snark is that you're talking about things as is good recordkeeping is some marvelous solution to problems. Where I live the tax agency has no problem having transparent records of everything that happens. And yet tax evasion is an enormous problem. Recordkeeping is not the reason why people evade taxes and why they won't stop. Same thing with a violent police force or corrupt border police.
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > Blockchains are a reliable record-keeping tool that can help It's a computer system where you enter records. That's it. These poor high-level government officials that can't do anything could already have implemented/procured such a system without blockchain. They haven't. But sure, they are only lacking blockchain to make this magically happen. Edit: > Unlike the skeptics here, I've provided reference supporting these claims. If you refer to pilot projects using blockchain in some countries, these are nothing but scams looking for easy grant money, don't solve the actual problems (especially not in countries with bad record keeping), and can be implemented faster and more efficiently with any other tech. As an example, this mini-thread on land registries in Afghanistan: https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1386994745218584580?s=20 https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1386994745218584580?s=20 Also this discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27212564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27212564 And this lower down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27217681 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27217681 How's that for references?
    - DennisP 5y ago
      More HN comments and a twitter thread? Eh, ok.
      - dmitriid 5y ago
        I wouldn't expect a comment containing any substance form anyone shilling for crypto. Those comments have real problems that none of the blockchain "magic" can solve. And, of course, the moment actual real problems are discussed all the crypto shills just disappear into the thin air.