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So now that Biden is the laughingstock of the Right, I guess they have the establishment and the deep state on their side and that is why they are not exiled?

adventured 5y ago
No, the right doesn't have much media power (only Fox News is of consequence), and it's quite weak politically until the midterms. Biden can largely ignore the right in that sense, he doesn't have to care if the political right mocks him. Mostly Biden has to pay attention to being his own worst enemy. The media protects Biden as much as possible, and the deep state tries to utilize him to get what they want (war, larger budgets, various globalist policies, war on domestic terrorism to set up a more advanced surveillance state). Biden's biggest problem by a dramatic margin, is the political center, which he has almost entirely lost already. If the right mocking Biden had any power behind it, he would have never won the election in the first place. It was close enough at the Electoral College that if the US media landscape were 50/50 left/right, Biden would not have prevailed. Obviously most everyone here understands that despite the flaws of the US, it generally doesn't disappear or exile as China does. The super structures that the left controls, which the right does not, do have very substantial power however (social media, big tech, hollywood, old media & news, journalism, education, welfare state).
- mindslight 5y ago
  > The super structures that the left controls, which the right does not, do have very substantial power however (social media, big tech, hollywood, old media & news, journalism, education, welfare state). This has become a political rallying cry, but is far from an objective truth. Just because "the left" is other to you, and those structures are other to you, does not imply that its sensible to say that those structures are controlled by "the left". Entrenched power structures are inherently conservative, with at most some feel-good progressive window dressing. That you judge them as being controlled by "the left" really just indicates how far "the right" has strayed from conservatism.
coldtea 5y ago
No, it's because there are no stakes. The right can laugh in their limited outlets, but can't mobilize all the "good people", media, state apparatus, three letter agencies, and so on.
- whatever1 5y ago
  What stakes does a single tennis player control? She still got whacked. The president of the US could easily make an annoying opposing journalist disappear. But they don’t. That is what makes America a functioning democracy and China an authoritarian regime.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    Pretty huge stakes actually. If she is allowed to provide evidence, then the accusation will hang like the sword of Damocles - as soon as the accused loses favour even slightly, an opportunistic enemy can bring them back up and use them to send the accused to prison. Therefore the stakes are very high for the accused to take her out before any proof or testimony can be put out. Alternatively, if you were a political oponent of the accused, you would be concerned for the safety of Peng, which you would now consider an asset, and you would, if you could, put her into what amounts to protective custody ASAP so you could defeat your rival before he can preempt it It's game of thrones shit. And by the way, it's like that in the US too - Epstein didn't kill himself.
- outside1234 5y ago
  Dude, you need to get a grip. This is not real.

adventured 5y ago

No, the right doesn't have much media power (only Fox News is of consequence), and it's quite weak politically until the midterms. Biden can largely ignore the right in that sense, he doesn't have to care if the political right mocks him. Mostly Biden has to pay attention to being his own worst enemy. The media protects Biden as much as possible, and the deep state tries to utilize him to get what they want (war, larger budgets, various globalist policies, war on domestic terrorism to set up a more advanced surveillance state). Biden's biggest problem by a dramatic margin, is the political center, which he has almost entirely lost already. If the right mocking Biden had any power behind it, he would have never won the election in the first place. It was close enough at the Electoral College that if the US media landscape were 50/50 left/right, Biden would not have prevailed. Obviously most everyone here understands that despite the flaws of the US, it generally doesn't disappear or exile as China does. The super structures that the left controls, which the right does not, do have very substantial power however (social media, big tech, hollywood, old media & news, journalism, education, welfare state).

mindslight 5y ago
> The super structures that the left controls, which the right does not, do have very substantial power however (social media, big tech, hollywood, old media & news, journalism, education, welfare state). This has become a political rallying cry, but is far from an objective truth. Just because "the left" is other to you, and those structures are other to you, does not imply that its sensible to say that those structures are controlled by "the left". Entrenched power structures are inherently conservative, with at most some feel-good progressive window dressing. That you judge them as being controlled by "the left" really just indicates how far "the right" has strayed from conservatism.

coldtea 5y ago

No, it's because there are no stakes. The right can laugh in their limited outlets, but can't mobilize all the "good people", media, state apparatus, three letter agencies, and so on.

whatever1 5y ago
What stakes does a single tennis player control? She still got whacked. The president of the US could easily make an annoying opposing journalist disappear. But they don’t. That is what makes America a functioning democracy and China an authoritarian regime.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  Pretty huge stakes actually. If she is allowed to provide evidence, then the accusation will hang like the sword of Damocles - as soon as the accused loses favour even slightly, an opportunistic enemy can bring them back up and use them to send the accused to prison. Therefore the stakes are very high for the accused to take her out before any proof or testimony can be put out. Alternatively, if you were a political oponent of the accused, you would be concerned for the safety of Peng, which you would now consider an asset, and you would, if you could, put her into what amounts to protective custody ASAP so you could defeat your rival before he can preempt it It's game of thrones shit. And by the way, it's like that in the US too - Epstein didn't kill himself.
outside1234 5y ago
Dude, you need to get a grip. This is not real.