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Yeah, imagine all the opportunities where you could have been outraged but weren't. What a waste. Jokes aside, I agree with you and think "modern framing" in m

Yeah, imagine all the opportunities where you could have been outraged but weren't. What a waste. Jokes aside, I agree with you and think "modern framing" in media should be scrapped again and journalistic work should return. Hard in the economy of today, but still necessary. Tha AfD wasn't far right on its inception (still right wing though) and the former leader was correct about a lot of things. Correct in a way that predictions became reality, this is measurable under scrutiny. They radicalized themselves more and more because media steadily reinforced that picture which of course attracted other people to the party.

Arnt 5y ago
… because media stealthily reinforced that picture? IMO, they let people like Björn Höcke in in order to gain the votes of the far-right voters. They didn't want far-right policies, but they did want votes, and so gradually Björn Höcke and his sort have been able to set the agenda. There's nothing stealthy about the media covering Höcke, he was elected by party member to represent the party, after all. Ditto the many others like Höcke. The main representative in the city where I live is someone called Katrin Ebner-Steiner who was voted in by AfD members, not by media, and only covered by general media after her election.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  I meant the way their portrait in media was painted, as a party against all others, which made everyone not on good terms with current society stream into the AfD. That necessarily attracted less reputable members. I think at the time Höcke got prominent the radicalization already happened. Of course thy aren't blameless for their fate.
noduerme 5y ago
>> "modern framing" in media should be scrapped again and journalistic work should return. I know so many people (here, in America) who are desperate to find a news source that simply presents news, free of opinion. There is none. I watch France24 every morning (30 minutes in English, the next in Spanish - they're often different stories), and it's easier to mentally remove the French bias about this or that former colony than it is, e.g. to remove the American left or right bias about all politics, or Russian or the Chinese or Qatari bias against democratic systems in general. DW is also okay, sometimes. (BBC is not). But even this is an extreme measure I take to find a somewhat unbiased news source that I can digest while I'm exercising. So yeah, there is a market in the economy of today. Everyone I know is sick of hearing opinions and slanted stories. If I turn on any American channel - whether it's NPR or Fox - I just want to vomit at how they baby-talk to their userbase.
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  PBS newshour is one of the best in the US, but everyone seems to ignore PBS
  - noduerme 5y ago
    I watch Newshour semi-regularly, and it's better than most news in the US. I think in recent years the tone has rubbed me the wrong way... like every news outlet here, it sounds like Judy is talking to a bunch of five year olds. Which she basically is.
    - netizen-936824 5y ago
      She probably wouldn't sound like that if she didn't have to explain the most basic of concepts to people who don't seem to understand anything, but that's just my biased take

Arnt 5y ago

… because media stealthily reinforced that picture? IMO, they let people like Björn Höcke in in order to gain the votes of the far-right voters. They didn't want far-right policies, but they did want votes, and so gradually Björn Höcke and his sort have been able to set the agenda. There's nothing stealthy about the media covering Höcke, he was elected by party member to represent the party, after all. Ditto the many others like Höcke. The main representative in the city where I live is someone called Katrin Ebner-Steiner who was voted in by AfD members, not by media, and only covered by general media after her election.

raxxorrax 5y ago
I meant the way their portrait in media was painted, as a party against all others, which made everyone not on good terms with current society stream into the AfD. That necessarily attracted less reputable members. I think at the time Höcke got prominent the radicalization already happened. Of course thy aren't blameless for their fate.

noduerme 5y ago

>> "modern framing" in media should be scrapped again and journalistic work should return. I know so many people (here, in America) who are desperate to find a news source that simply presents news, free of opinion. There is none. I watch France24 every morning (30 minutes in English, the next in Spanish - they're often different stories), and it's easier to mentally remove the French bias about this or that former colony than it is, e.g. to remove the American left or right bias about all politics, or Russian or the Chinese or Qatari bias against democratic systems in general. DW is also okay, sometimes. (BBC is not). But even this is an extreme measure I take to find a somewhat unbiased news source that I can digest while I'm exercising. So yeah, there is a market in the economy of today. Everyone I know is sick of hearing opinions and slanted stories. If I turn on any American channel - whether it's NPR or Fox - I just want to vomit at how they baby-talk to their userbase.

netizen-936824 5y ago
PBS newshour is one of the best in the US, but everyone seems to ignore PBS
- noduerme 5y ago
  I watch Newshour semi-regularly, and it's better than most news in the US. I think in recent years the tone has rubbed me the wrong way... like every news outlet here, it sounds like Judy is talking to a bunch of five year olds. Which she basically is.
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
    She probably wouldn't sound like that if she didn't have to explain the most basic of concepts to people who don't seem to understand anything, but that's just my biased take