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Morality is impacted by perceived norms. Perceived norms are impacted by incentivization. Underage kids making non-nude porn en masse on MySpace would not fly i

Morality is impacted by perceived norms. Perceived norms are impacted by incentivization. Underage kids making non-nude porn en masse on MySpace would not fly in 2005. Thirst baiting is normal on tiktok today.

harry8 5y ago
Again practice is impacted by perceived norms. If you thought it was constrained by morality and it changed through change of norms and incentives then you just found out it wasn't. You don't have to like that. I sure don't.
- iratewizard 5y ago
  There is no fear of punishment for not bringing your shopping cart back. No fine or social stigma. Yet most civilized people bring back their cart. Except where there is visible moral decay around them. I don't subscribe to a nihilistic view that any moral principles that a group of people can give up on were never moral principles.
  - harry8 5y ago
    Which, if your observation is true, that shopping cart return is motivated by utilitarian incentive. "If most of us do it, things work better and most us do so it makes sense." Disagree with that all you like, you might well be right. I claim whatever it is it's a long way from promiscuity increasing with a decline in consequence for sexual activity from saying anything about the morals of those who would have loved to fornicate but lacked opportunity prior. Or indeed those so easily swayed by the "everyone does it" argument and were making a virtue of their lack off reasonable opportunity. Reasonable people may disagree with that of course. Usually this kind of thing is imposed morality which isn't individual morals. "I want everyone else to follow what I think is moral by making (sex/drugs/other thing I dislike) have dire consequences through policy because I can't convince _them_ to do the right thing because _they_ lack [my] morals."

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Morality is impacted by perceived norms. Perceived norms are impacted by incentivization. Underage kids making non-nude porn en masse on MySpace would not fly i

by iratewizard 5y ago

harry8 5y ago
Again practice is impacted by perceived norms. If you thought it was constrained by morality and it changed through change of norms and incentives then you just found out it wasn't. You don't have to like that. I sure don't.
- iratewizard 5y ago
  There is no fear of punishment for not bringing your shopping cart back. No fine or social stigma. Yet most civilized people bring back their cart. Except where there is visible moral decay around them. I don't subscribe to a nihilistic view that any moral principles that a group of people can give up on were never moral principles.
  - harry8 5y ago
    Which, if your observation is true, that shopping cart return is motivated by utilitarian incentive. "If most of us do it, things work better and most us do so it makes sense." Disagree with that all you like, you might well be right. I claim whatever it is it's a long way from promiscuity increasing with a decline in consequence for sexual activity from saying anything about the morals of those who would have loved to fornicate but lacked opportunity prior. Or indeed those so easily swayed by the "everyone does it" argument and were making a virtue of their lack off reasonable opportunity. Reasonable people may disagree with that of course. Usually this kind of thing is imposed morality which isn't individual morals. "I want everyone else to follow what I think is moral by making (sex/drugs/other thing I dislike) have dire consequences through policy because I can't convince _them_ to do the right thing because _they_ lack [my] morals."