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The masks are secondary to the issue of refusing to acknowledge the high probability of airborne transmission. People were washing their hands, using hand sani

The masks are secondary to the issue of refusing to acknowledge the high probability of airborne transmission. People were washing their hands, using hand sanitizer, opening doors with crazy key-chains, basically not touching anything, wearing gloves, fist and elbow bumping ... when they really needed to not be breathing each others air.

timr 5y ago
Yeah, that was definitely part of it too. It was plausible for a minute there that surface transmission was real, but then it took way too long for the CDC and the WHO to admit it. So now, even today, I see people wearing dirty rubber gloves in the grocery store (sigh). There's simply no part of this pandemic that makes "the experts" look good, and it has utterly destroyed any remaining faith that I had in journalism. Now we merely have competing ideological factions, and their preferred sources of propaganda.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  Yeah, it's totally the fault of the CDC that people continue to do things that don't make sense. Totally a top down problem, all they had to do was get the messaging right and no one would have done anything wildly incoherent for the entire pandemic.
  - Ensorceled 5y ago
    No one is asserting that the CDC/Health Canada mis-steps are the lone cause of the disastrous response to COVID.
    - maxerickson 5y ago
      So now, even today, I see people wearing dirty rubber gloves in the grocery store (sigh). That sentence is about CDC messaging. There would be people wearing dirty rubber gloves in grocery stores if they did it perfect.
      - Ensorceled 5y ago
        Again, NO ONE is asserting that the CDC messaging is causing all the problems. But it was, and id, certainly contributing to it.
      - timr 5y ago
        If the CDC and the WHO and "the experts" hadn't spent months flooding the airwaves with the message that people should be scared of fomites, while ignoring aerosols? I think that might have played a role, yes.
- geoduck14 5y ago
  >So now, even today, I see people wearing dirty rubber gloves in the grocery store (sigh). A month ago, I was judgemental towards a couple who were "overly protective" about the virus. It turns out they did REALLY risky stuff, and they were "overly protective" to protect me. Maybe the people in the grocery store with gloves have open wounds and don't want to spread infected blood around.
  - timr 5y ago
    Or maybe they're just average people, terrified out of their wits by a narrative that wasn't based in facts, and was promulgated by a media industry that needs panic to survive. I guess we'll never know. But there sure are a lot of folks wearing gloves now who weren't wearing them before. And that's why I was sighing.
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  > There's simply no part of this pandemic that makes "the experts" look good, and it has utterly destroyed any remaining faith that I had in journalism. Yeah, the inability to call the "experts" out when they were clearly wrong and now the constant interviews with "the vaccine hesitant" ...
  - MrPatan 5y ago
    Oh, some people in the media did call them out. They're not in the media anymore.

timr 5y ago

Yeah, that was definitely part of it too. It was plausible for a minute there that surface transmission was real, but then it took way too long for the CDC and the WHO to admit it. So now, even today, I see people wearing dirty rubber gloves in the grocery store (sigh). There's simply no part of this pandemic that makes "the experts" look good, and it has utterly destroyed any remaining faith that I had in journalism. Now we merely have competing ideological factions, and their preferred sources of propaganda.

maxerickson 5y ago
Yeah, it's totally the fault of the CDC that people continue to do things that don't make sense. Totally a top down problem, all they had to do was get the messaging right and no one would have done anything wildly incoherent for the entire pandemic.
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  No one is asserting that the CDC/Health Canada mis-steps are the lone cause of the disastrous response to COVID.
  - maxerickson 5y ago
    So now, even today, I see people wearing dirty rubber gloves in the grocery store (sigh). That sentence is about CDC messaging. There would be people wearing dirty rubber gloves in grocery stores if they did it perfect.
    - Ensorceled 5y ago
      Again, NO ONE is asserting that the CDC messaging is causing all the problems. But it was, and id, certainly contributing to it.
    - timr 5y ago
      If the CDC and the WHO and "the experts" hadn't spent months flooding the airwaves with the message that people should be scared of fomites, while ignoring aerosols? I think that might have played a role, yes.
geoduck14 5y ago
>So now, even today, I see people wearing dirty rubber gloves in the grocery store (sigh). A month ago, I was judgemental towards a couple who were "overly protective" about the virus. It turns out they did REALLY risky stuff, and they were "overly protective" to protect me. Maybe the people in the grocery store with gloves have open wounds and don't want to spread infected blood around.
- timr 5y ago
  Or maybe they're just average people, terrified out of their wits by a narrative that wasn't based in facts, and was promulgated by a media industry that needs panic to survive. I guess we'll never know. But there sure are a lot of folks wearing gloves now who weren't wearing them before. And that's why I was sighing.
Ensorceled 5y ago
> There's simply no part of this pandemic that makes "the experts" look good, and it has utterly destroyed any remaining faith that I had in journalism. Yeah, the inability to call the "experts" out when they were clearly wrong and now the constant interviews with "the vaccine hesitant" ...
- MrPatan 5y ago
  Oh, some people in the media did call them out. They're not in the media anymore.